From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 05 23:17:14 2022 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1o8vXO-0005vK-5b for mharc-tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 23:17:14 -0400 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([2001:470:142::13]:49578) by lists.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o8vXM-0005vA-EM for tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 23:17:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fsf.org; s=mail-fsf-org; h=MIME-Version:In-reply-to:Date:Subject:To:From:References; bh=B0u4kt5Yn++zuA80DHAIQz669MuWIDRqjlhSwS7Px7I=; b=JgvTILTkfz50IXV9CQ+QZaF6f 6wCeZpNNSKEo67jJnKFTnFqVqNBSqCvVcunYHbh+wl+aCCMbKYdvtqu/yc712vlFVvm1Los+Jl0mc tzOcVGwe+pSRezzaqHNgM+vnrXwX+/+KcoXaWU+sCqGHDjY20xBpL76XAzY71iNaFd2OmTKHz+KZf wAbxd0b2MYSSQaoqK6BT5Yt5GtdSky0eIAskmUYzf1JqNb1iay48NdFX3I2uy30wxmRZ4tKzQlcm+ RO0QdZrlHoRXlChr2KNs2zPj7shkWfeNmCjAJkUTOgHHTDHx5ZGtLntc9+Kr/2JJZWHIcu1HgwL0z 6OHfL7KhQ==; References: <87mtf5ruzp.fsf@ypei.me> User-agent: mu4e 1.7.27; emacs 29.0.50 From: Ian Kelling To: Yuchen Pei Cc: tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org Subject: Re: updates Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2022 23:16:23 -0400 In-reply-to: <87mtf5ruzp.fsf@ypei.me> Message-ID: <87bku39bgp.fsf@fsf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2022 03:17:12 -0000 Late reply, but thank you for this update Yuchen, it was good to read when you sent it. Yuchen Pei writes: > Just thought I'd drop some updates. > > - I've been working on a new release of librejs for >1 month now, on and > off. I have tested it for a month or so and it worked well, but I > wanted to refactor the code a bit more as it is kind of a mess. The > first step would be to add some tests which I haven't got around to do > yet. > - Librejs already has some tests, but h-node seems to have none. The > codebase is very old and in a worse shape than librejs. So to make > any non-trivial change one has to start adding tests and refactor. > ATM I have no clue how to add php tests, so it will take a while > before I can make interesting changes to the code. > > Best, > Yuchen From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 06 11:01:26 2022 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1o96Ws-0005UL-5B for mharc-tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 11:01:26 -0400 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([2001:470:142::13]:52938) by lists.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o96Wp-0005U2-9h for tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 11:01:23 -0400 Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:43864) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_X25519__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1o96Wn-00AaUS-9y for tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 11:01:22 -0400 Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0AA5E8 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2022 09:01:19 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proulx.com; s=dkim2048; t=1657119679; bh=WgR/JnCCLyzDAFrBkXK/YA5JsivJamGrLKsK4aKXG8I=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=XV+5LHYl/pvRVf4V0HxDJ98joEuQhwLQ3CD9uT9dEotjV5KFiIrxw34EcoOn37Dbj lta7Jox9mFxkTpJg3TM0SDoCx5sJ2C7eeBjMhtZrgCeSS7NJCl+tZacj2WS+9TC78W tnguBM3wPwfS633dddau0rbGv3idn1c2QAW90DChqBiUihYFgxjZBlvhGUJ6dippGR Rj/Esq4XJivZVdCQbXZoGrGihHHmhJq2Lo/8oY6vCLE8Zt8nD/bOPIq+Df45elt4a5 /OKlj+OiqcUKinwfThx2iydWOyezifPj15CiVKO/Uulzy9TYzzXWJ+Afm+rio/saut KXmDF109JxyNw== Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7419C968AC for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2022 09:01:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5E8CA2DCA5; Wed, 6 Jul 2022 09:01:19 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 09:01:19 -0600 From: Bob Proulx To: tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org Subject: Bob's Guide to System Upgrades With Debian Message-ID: <20220706085850817177711@bob.proulx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Received-SPF: pass client-ip=96.88.95.61; envelope-from=bob@proulx.com; helo=havoc.proulx.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2022 15:01:23 -0000 I promised that I would write up the way I prepare a system for doing an upgrade. It is the preparation that ensures that an upgrade flows smoothly or has problems. I have added this to the Savannah documentation. Bob's Guide to System Upgrades With Debian and Debian based systems such as Trisquel, Ubuntu, Mint https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/BobsGuideToSystemUpgrades/ In particular I describe the problem of "obsolete conffiles". How to check for them. How to resolve them. Bob From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 11 14:09:17 2022 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1oAxqP-0000sm-FR for mharc-tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 14:09:17 -0400 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([2001:470:142::13]:49106) by lists.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oAxqN-0000sc-VG for tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 14:09:15 -0400 Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:47296) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_X25519__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1oAxqL-004cXT-T8 for tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 14:09:15 -0400 Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710508E1 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:09:10 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proulx.com; s=dkim2048; t=1657562950; bh=+S7thcXGEt81DXLZt3oqyXyk4ksS3hDNTSmgycHEtJ4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=d8hXE++O2j7fm9m6GUb6YW6UJqtAV1V3O+GxaQJpt/qB+/RcZ+MXNXHM47frWR4Fb NWpkGpxAj8Qq+4WPqfOa86kqkp42Mj0YPSJdzgByodISGcSqIQdg7jodZGako+Yx02 GDdyARNtCVIiw/YokOEKM7AhyC+mERQ5qt3wQZuNeLOnHqHNJ31PAkqsnzmSsK8nGj cMAF2uz1c4TmtvmVqCUlAZLMlG6GcNETNcUFNQA4FXQcRZNEzptPa2us6UwUTQZiv9 XDVEmJ7sI+ocrpFSmQl9x5FkBNML0g+xH5Bo8oPWUlmVfrARICszNqWH+EqQAXCF5k 3XprcbgXDGuAg== Received: from madness.proulx.com (madness.proulx.com [192.168.230.122]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6B459C4E for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:09:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by madness.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4154E432AB; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:09:10 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:09:10 -0600 From: Bob Proulx To: tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org Subject: Re: Bob's Guide to System Upgrades With Debian Message-ID: <20220711120043N@bob.proulx.com> References: <20220706085850817177711@bob.proulx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20220706085850817177711@bob.proulx.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=96.88.95.61; envelope-from=rwp@proulx.com; helo=havoc.proulx.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: tech-volunteer-meeting@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 18:09:16 -0000 As a specific item that I wanted to call attention to that is needed for the FSF VMs for an upgrade from Trisquel 9 to Trisquel 10 is this package cryptsetup-initramfs which needs to be installed. cryptsetup-initramfs Originally the required files were in cryptsetup but that package is now split. The new package cryptsetup-initramfs is a Recommends only and isn't guaranteed to get installed. It's needed with the current VM setup (isn't needed on the older VMs) in order to boot. So if upgrading one must ensure that it gets installed. And less important is that for whatever reason the kernel symlinks did not track to the new kernel package. That's quite odd. I don't know why. These links. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Dec 7 2021 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-161-generic lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Dec 7 2021 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-161-generic They were still pointing to the old, in this case version 4, kernels. Ian ran this manually to fix them up. linux-update-symlinks install 5.4.0-121-generic /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-121-generic lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 Jul 8 18:34 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-121-generic lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Jul 8 18:34 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-121-generic I'll watch for the next kernel upgrade and verify that they update at that time or not. The current config file says this. root@frontend1:~# cat /etc/kernel-img.conf do_symlinks = yes do_initrd = Yes silent_modules=yes clobber_modules=yes link_in_boot = no Generally the upgrades on frontend1 went very well! Bob