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Le 29/11/2022 à 11:26, Hindrik Bruinsma via a écrit :
> Hey there,
> 
> 
> I would like to help translate the /Email Self-Defense/ guide. Is 
> someone already working on that?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Groeten Hindrik
> 

Hello Hindrik,

Thank you for offering your help!

Nobody is translating the guide to Dutch as far as I know. Do you know 
anybody who could team up with you, at least for proofreading?

All the best,

Thérèse
(French translator)



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On 01.12.22 10:38, Thérèse Godefroy wrote:
> Le 29/11/2022 à 11:26, Hindrik Bruinsma via a écrit :
>> Hey there,
>>
>>
>> I would like to help translate the /Email Self-Defense/ guide. Is 
>> someone already working on that?
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Groeten Hindrik
>>
>
> Hello Hindrik,
>
> Thank you for offering your help!
>
> Nobody is translating the guide to Dutch as far as I know. Do you know 
> anybody who could team up with you, at least for proofreading?
>
> All the best,
>
> Thérèse
> (French translator)
>

Hi Hindrik,

If you can't find someone to team up with, please contact me.
I won't have time to help with the actual translation, but I can assist 
with proofreading.

I would love to see a Dutch translation :)

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          translating the Email Self-Defense manual into Polish, I'd be
          happy to help. The idea of email encryption is not very
          popular and I believe that it needs to be supported not only
          in English. I don't have much experience with encryption
          techniques, but I've participated in translating technical
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          alone.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">Regards</font></font></p>
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Hi Wojciech,

I have been contemplating translating the manual into Polish for a 
while, I will gladly join forces.

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> If anyone is working on translating the Email Self-Defense manual into
> Polish, I'd be happy to help. The idea of email encryption is not very
> popular and I believe that it needs to be supported not only in English.
> I don't have much experience with encryption techniques, but I've
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    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">Hi Irena,</font></font></p=
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    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">I would like to know if yo=
u
          already have any experience with the procedures and customs
          here? Has anyone tried to translate something into Polish? Or
          should we start from scratch and work out our rules (accepted
          phrases, translations of specialized terms, etc.)?</font></font=
></p>
    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">Regards</font></font></p>
    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">Wojciech</font></font></p>=

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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 2022-12-02 o=C2=A020:09, Irena =
Wypych
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i
      Wojciech,
      <br>
      <br>
      I have been contemplating translating the manual into Polish for a
      while, I will gladly join forces.
      <br>
      <br>
      Regards
      <br>
      <br>
      Irena
      <br>
      <br>
      W dniu 2.12.2022 o=C2=A018:00, <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated=
" href=3D"mailto:esd-translators-request@fsf.org">esd-translators-request=
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        Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 22:18:10 +0100
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        From: Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" hre=
f=3D"mailto:szaroblekitny@gmail.com">&lt;szaroblekitny@gmail.com&gt;</a>
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        Hi,
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        <br>
        If anyone is working on translating the Email Self-Defense
        manual into
        <br>
        Polish, I'd be happy to help. The idea of email encryption is
        not very
        <br>
        popular and I believe that it needs to be supported not only in
        English.
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        I don't have much experience with encryption techniques, but
        I've
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        participated in translating technical texts. However, I don't
        think that
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        I can do the translation alone.
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Hello!

Trying to update sq translation, I found :

1. In your email program, go back to the first encrypted email that
Edward sent you. Because Edward encrypted it with your public key, it
will have a green checkmark a at the top "OpenPGP" button.

The =E2=80=9Ca at=E2=80=9D should read =E2=80=9Cat=E2=80=9D.

2. Under "Your Acceptance," you can select <i>Yes, I've verified in
person this key has the correct fingerprint"</i>.

There=E2=80=99s an unmatched quote.


Regards,
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I also found another unmatched quote in Step 4.b Troubleshooting:
 > This usually means you imported the key with the "unaccepted 
(unverified) option."

It should be "Accepted (unverified)". I found it when I recheck my 
translation with Localize Mozilla 
(https://pontoon.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/).

On 12/3/22 20:10, Besnik Bleta wrote:
> 2. Under "Your Acceptance," you can select <i>Yes, I've verified in
> person this key has the correct fingerprint"</i>.
> 
> There’s an unmatched quote.


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Hello!

I tried to git clone the enc repo but failed:

  git clone git@vcs.fsf.org:enc.git
  Cloning into 'enc'...
  git@vcs.fsf.org: Permission denied (publickey).
  fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

  Please make sure you have the correct access rights
  and the repository exists.

I might have a clone somewhere from the old days of first translation*,
but in the case I don=E2=80=99t find it, how could I authenticate myself?

My second question regards esd-svg-temp.pot under enc/static. Are=20
we supposed to translate it?

Best,=20
Besnik

* I=E2=80=99m the author.=20


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On 12/3/22 22:13, Besnik Bleta wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I tried to git clone the enc repo but failed:
> 
>    git clone git@vcs.fsf.org:enc.git
>    Cloning into 'enc'...
>    git@vcs.fsf.org: Permission denied (publickey).
>    fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
> 
>    Please make sure you have the correct access rights
>    and the repository exists.
> 
> I might have a clone somewhere from the old days of first translation*,
> but in the case I don’t find it, how could I authenticate myself?

You need contact FSF people (sysadmin@fsf.org) with you SSH key. They 
will give you the read and write access.

> My second question regards esd-svg-temp.pot under enc/static. Are
> we supposed to translate it?

I haven't this POT file and haven't notice it before, I just update its 
new images/screenshots. But it could be if you feel translate with PO 
file is comfortable.

-- 
Tom, Chinese Translator


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Hello Tom!
On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 22:36:19 +0800
Tom <hxxtom@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/3/22 22:13, Besnik Bleta wrote:
> >=20
> > Hello!
> >=20
> > I tried to git clone the enc repo but failed:
> >=20
> >    git clone git@vcs.fsf.org:enc.git
> >    Cloning into 'enc'...
> >    git@vcs.fsf.org: Permission denied (publickey).
> >    fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
> >=20
> >    Please make sure you have the correct access rights
> >    and the repository exists.
> >=20
> > I might have a clone somewhere from the old days of first
> > translation*, but in the case I don=E2=80=99t find it, how could I
> > authenticate myself? =20
>=20
> You need contact FSF people (sysadmin@fsf.org) with you SSH key. They=20
> will give you the read and write access.

Thank you for trying to help. I=E2=80=99ve gone through this step previousl=
y, sq
translation was live for a while=E2=80=A6

Best,=20
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Hi Wojciech,=0A=0Afrom what I understand, based on the ESD-translators arch=
ive, there has been no translation work done into Polish as of yet. I am ne=
w here though; if someone has more knowledge about the PL version, I hope t=
hey will add some info to this thread.=0AAssuming no previous work has been=
 done, starting from scratch sounds like a reasonable idea.=0A=0ABest=0AIre=
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2 20:09:05 +0100=0AFrom: Irena Wypych <info@irenawypych.com>=0ATo: esd-tran=
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ng on translating the Email Self-Defense manual into=0A> Polish, I'd be hap=
py to help. The idea of email encryption is not very=0A> popular and I beli=
eve that it needs to be supported not only in English.=0A> I don't have muc=
h experience with encryption techniques, but I've=0A> participated in trans=
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    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">Hi Irena,</font></font></p=
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    <p>I asked the git repository admins for access. When I get it, I
      will see what the actual state of work is and then we will be able
      to take appropriate steps.<br>
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    <p>Regards</p>
    <p>Wojciech<br>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 2022-12-04 o=C2=A000:00,
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:info@irenawypy=
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      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">Hi Wojciech,

from what I understand, based on the ESD-translators archive, there has b=
een no translation work done into Polish as of yet. I am new here though;=
 if someone has more knowledge about the PL version, I hope they will add=
 some info to this thread.
Assuming no previous work has been done, starting from scratch sounds lik=
e a reasonable idea.

Best
Irena

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Hi Wojciech,

I have been contemplating translating the manual into Polish for a=20
while, I will gladly join forces.

Regards

Irena

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Hi,

If anyone is working on translating the Email Self-Defense manual into
Polish, I'd be happy to help. The idea of email encryption is not very
popular and I believe that it needs to be supported not only in English.
I don't have much experience with encryption techniques, but I've
participated in translating technical texts. However, I don't think that
I can do the translation alone.

Regards

Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 20:57:40 +0100
From: Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mai=
lto:szaroblekitny@gmail.com">&lt;szaroblekitny@gmail.com&gt;</a>
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Hi Irena,

I would like to know if you already have any experience with the=20
procedures and customs here? Has anyone tried to translate something=20
into Polish? Or should we start from scratch and work out our rules=20
(accepted phrases, translations of specialized terms, etc.)?

Regards

Wojciech


W dniu 2022-12-02 o=C2=A020:09, Irena Wypych pisze:
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I have been contemplating translating the manual into Polish for a=20
while, I will gladly join forces.

Regards

Irena

W dniu 2.12.2022 o=C2=A018:00, <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 22:18:10 +0100
From: Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mai=
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Hi,

If anyone is working on translating the Email Self-Defense manual into
Polish, I'd be happy to help. The idea of email encryption is not very
popular and I believe that it needs to be supported not only in English.
I don't have much experience with encryption techniques, but I've
participated in translating technical texts. However, I don't think that
I can do the translation alone.

Regards

Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba

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Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2022 14:10:19 +0200
From: Besnik Bleta <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:besn=
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Hello!

Trying to update sq translation, I found :

1. In your email program, go back to the first encrypted email that
Edward sent you. Because Edward encrypted it with your public key, it
will have a green checkmark a at the top "OpenPGP" button.

The =E2=80=9Ca at=E2=80=9D should read =E2=80=9Cat=E2=80=9D.

2. Under "Your Acceptance," you can select &lt;i&gt;Yes, I've verified in=

person this key has the correct fingerprint"&lt;/i&gt;.

There=E2=80=99s an unmatched quote.


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Hi Besnik,

On 03.12.22 17:46, Besnik Bleta wrote:
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>> You need contact FSF people (sysadmin@fsf.org) with you SSH key. They
>> will give you the read and write access.
> Thank you for trying to help. I’ve gone through this step previously, sq
> translation was live for a while…
>
> Best,
> Besnik
I would try doing this either way. We may have removed access when we 
redid the site.
Otherwise it still seems like an access problem they probably have to 
assist with.

Thanks


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Hello!

On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 22:56:26 +0100
Zo=C3=AB Kooyman <zoe@fsf.org> wrote:

> Hi Besnik,
>=20
> On 03.12.22 17:46, Besnik Bleta wrote:
> > =20
> >> You need contact FSF people (sysadmin@fsf.org) with you SSH key.
> >> They will give you the read and write access. =20
> > Thank you for trying to help. I=E2=80=99ve gone through this step
> > previously, sq translation was live for a while=E2=80=A6
> >
> > Best,
> > Besnik =20
> I would try doing this either way. We may have removed access when we=20
> redid the site.
> Otherwise it still seems like an access problem they probably have to=20
> assist with.
>=20
> Thanks

I just sent a request to them to restore my permissions.

Besnik


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Hello!

I tried to git clone the enc repo but failed:

  git clone git@vcs.fsf.org:enc.git
  Cloning into 'enc'...
  git@vcs.fsf.org: Permission denied (publickey).
  fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

  Please make sure you have the correct access rights
  and the repository exists.

I might have a clone somewhere from the old days of first translation*,
but in the case I don=E2=80=99t find it, how could I authenticate myself?

My second question regards esd-svg-temp.pot under enc/static. Are=20
we supposed to translate it?

Meanwhile I=E2=80=99m attaching the updated translation file to this messag=
e,
if that could speed up the process.


Best,=20
Besnik

* I=E2=80=99m the author.=20

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Hello!

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 19:54:11 +0200
Zo=C3=AB Kooyman <zoe@fsf.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>=20
> We (Greg, FSF campaigns manager, and myself) are working on the Email
> Self Defense guide.
> We are going into our annual summer fundraiser, and as part of that we
> will publish the update.
>=20
> As you may know, Enigmail is no longer a feasible option for GPG, so
> we are currently going through the steps of the different OS's to help
> people create a GPG key from scratch and then using it with
> Thunderbird or IceDove.
>=20
> We will aim to keep the texts that can stay the same, the same, but it
> does mean there will be some substantial changes to the ESD guide
> affecting translation in a pretty serious way too.
>=20
> We're working on it now, which means we can take people's thoughts as
> well. If you have anything you would like us to think of or
> integrate, we're open to suggestions and we'll see if we can
> integrate them!
>=20
> Kind regards,
>=20
> Zoe

I=E2=80=99m late with this, but better late than never.

Reading the guide, with the purpose of updating the sq translation,
I have those remarks to make:=20

* It is not stated if getting your ssh key authenticated gives you
permission to push. It only says =E2=80=9CThe FSF tech team will give you
access to the development sites=E2=80=99s repo.=E2=80=9D Then further down =
it
mentions something along the lines =E2=80=9Cwhen you push=E2=80=9D.
(https://libreplanet.org/wiki/GPG_guide/Translation_Guide)

* In https://libreplanet.org/wiki/GPG_guide/Repository_and_Publishing
it reads =E2=80=9CCheck out the dev repo *and* the live repo=E2=80=9D. The =
live repo
isn=E2=80=99t introduced anywhere and one doesn=E2=80=99t know anymore whic=
h is which.

* Git commands (=E2=80=9Cuse git branch to make sure you=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=
=9Cuse git checkout
  master=E2=80=9D etc) could be made to stand out from the rest of text.

* http://dev.man-online.org/man7/po4a/ link is dead. (Because
  http://ww1.man-online.org/ i dead? Duno=E2=80=A6)

* =E2=80=9COn all pages with a language picker=E2=80=9D could be rewritten =
to just
  state each those files, =E2=80=9CChange _this_ to _that_ in file 1.html,
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Best,
Besnik








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Le 05/12/2022 à 10:35, Besnik Bleta a écrit :
[...]
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> 
> Besnik

Hello Besnik,

I pushed the Albanian translation to the live repo, but it is not online 
yet. Maybe tomorrow?

All the best,
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Hello!

On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 16:24:16 +0100
Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se Godefroy <godef.th@free.fr> wrote:

> Le 05/12/2022 =C3=A0 10:35, Besnik Bleta a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> [...]
> > I just sent a request to them to restore my permissions.
> >=20
> > Besnik =20
>=20
> Hello Besnik,
>=20
> I pushed the Albanian translation to the live repo, but it is not
> online yet. Maybe tomorrow?
>=20
> All the best,
> Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se
Many thanks! I just pushed the last typo fixes and few cosmetic
changes. Can you or someone lese mirror them in production?

Best,
Besnik
for your help


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Hello!

I found a few things that might need a second thought:

* There=E2=80=99s a section for setting up a password, where for the title
we use =E2=80=9Cpassphrase=E2=80=9D, but throughout that section we use =E2=
=80=9Cpassword=E2=80=9D.
And then under Troubleshooting subsection of the same, we switch to
=E2=80=9Cpassphrase=E2=80=9D.
For a beginner that might be confusing.

* =E2=80=9CYou can use the code: <code>chmod 700 ~/.gnupg</code>=E2=80=9D
=E2=80=9Cchmod=E2=80=9D is a Unix command, we already use the term command,
so it could be used here too, rather than =E2=80=9Ccode=E2=80=9D. Less conf=
using
for anybody who doesn=E2=80=99t know Unix commands.

Best,
Besnik


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Le 07/12/2022 à 17:34, Besnik Bleta a écrit :
> Hello!
> 
> On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 16:24:16 +0100
> Thérèse Godefroy <godef.th@free.fr> wrote:
> 
>> Le 05/12/2022 à 10:35, Besnik Bleta a écrit :
>> [...]
>>> I just sent a request to them to restore my permissions.
>>>
>>> Besnik
>>
>> Hello Besnik,
>>
>> I pushed the Albanian translation to the live repo, but it is not
>> online yet. Maybe tomorrow?
>>
>> All the best,
>> Thérèse
> Many thanks! I just pushed the last typo fixes and few cosmetic
> changes. Can you or someone lese mirror them in production?
> 
> Best,
> Besnik
> for your help

I just pushed these small fixes to the live repo.



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On 07.12.22 17:35, Besnik Bleta wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I found a few things that might need a second thought:
>
> * There’s a section for setting up a password, where for the title
> we use “passphrase”, but throughout that section we use “password”.
> And then under Troubleshooting subsection of the same, we switch to
> “passphrase”.
> For a beginner that might be confusing.
>
> * “You can use the code: <code>chmod 700 ~/.gnupg</code>”
> “chmod” is a Unix command, we already use the term command,
> so it could be used here too, rather than “code”. Less confusing
> for anybody who doesn’t know Unix commands.
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I have forwarded them to be  updated some time soon.

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Hindrik Bruinsma via <esd-translators@fsf.org> wrote:

> Hey,
>=20
> as I'm working on Dutch translations, I wonder if you had any issues=20
> with poedit? On my machine it messed up quiet some quotes in the=20
> translated content, which I had to resolve with VS code. How did you=20
> handle those?

I=E2=80=99ve had troubles with Poedit sometime in the past, out of ESD cont=
ext,
but that was because I=E2=80=99ve messed up my machine and Poedit installat=
ion.
After switching distro and a newer version of it some years ago, Poedit
works as it is expected to, even with huge files (over fifty
thousands strings). Only occasionally it crashes out of the blue.

So, no, I wouldn=E2=80=99t expect it to mess with quotes in a file.
If you can, try booting from a live distro and add poedit to it and see
what happens with the issues you=E2=80=99re having.=20

Regards,
Besnik


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    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">Hi Irena</font></font></p>=

    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">After solving the problem =
of
          logging into the git repository, I find that the Polish
          translation was not done at all, so we start from scratch. I
          think now we need to get acquainted with the technical side of
          the work, and then establish some sort of partition of work.</f=
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    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">Regards</font></font></p>
    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">Wojciech</font></font></p>=

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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 2022-12-04 o=C2=A000:00,
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      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">Hi Wojciech,

from what I understand, based on the ESD-translators archive, there has b=
een no translation work done into Polish as of yet. I am new here though;=
 if someone has more knowledge about the PL version, I hope they will add=
 some info to this thread.
Assuming no previous work has been done, starting from scratch sounds lik=
e a reasonable idea.

Best
Irena

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Today's Topics:

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   3. Typos Re: Substantial update to the Email Self-Defense guide
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Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 20:09:05 +0100
From: Irena Wypych <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:info=
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Hi Wojciech,

I have been contemplating translating the manual into Polish for a=20
while, I will gladly join forces.

Regards

Irena

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 22:18:10 +0100
From: Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mai=
lto:szaroblekitny@gmail.com">&lt;szaroblekitny@gmail.com&gt;</a>
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Hi,

If anyone is working on translating the Email Self-Defense manual into
Polish, I'd be happy to help. The idea of email encryption is not very
popular and I believe that it needs to be supported not only in English.
I don't have much experience with encryption techniques, but I've
participated in translating technical texts. However, I don't think that
I can do the translation alone.

Regards

Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 20:57:40 +0100
From: Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mai=
lto:szaroblekitny@gmail.com">&lt;szaroblekitny@gmail.com&gt;</a>
To: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:esd-translators@=
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Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] Polish translation
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Hi Irena,

I would like to know if you already have any experience with the=20
procedures and customs here? Has anyone tried to translate something=20
into Polish? Or should we start from scratch and work out our rules=20
(accepted phrases, translations of specialized terms, etc.)?

Regards

Wojciech


W dniu 2022-12-02 o=C2=A020:09, Irena Wypych pisze:
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        <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">Hi Wojciech,

I have been contemplating translating the manual into Polish for a=20
while, I will gladly join forces.

Regards

Irena

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=3D"mailto:esd-translators-request@fsf.org">esd-translators-request@fsf.o=
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Hi,

If anyone is working on translating the Email Self-Defense manual into
Polish, I'd be happy to help. The idea of email encryption is not very
popular and I believe that it needs to be supported not only in English.
I don't have much experience with encryption techniques, but I've
participated in translating technical texts. However, I don't think that
I can do the translation alone.

Regards

Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba

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Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2022 14:10:19 +0200
From: Besnik Bleta <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:besn=
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Hello!

Trying to update sq translation, I found :

1. In your email program, go back to the first encrypted email that
Edward sent you. Because Edward encrypted it with your public key, it
will have a green checkmark a at the top "OpenPGP" button.

The =E2=80=9Ca at=E2=80=9D should read =E2=80=9Cat=E2=80=9D.

2. Under "Your Acceptance," you can select &lt;i&gt;Yes, I've verified in=

person this key has the correct fingerprint"&lt;/i&gt;.

There=E2=80=99s an unmatched quote.


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Hi Wojciech,=0A=0Athank you for investigating this. I will email you separa=
tely about the work split and the technicalities. =0A=0AI'm glad the PL tra=
nslation might come into being after all.=0A=0ABest,=0AIrena=0A=0A-----Orig=
inal Message-----=0AFrom: esd-translators-request@fsf.org=0ASent: Wednesday=
, 14 December, 2022 22:30=0ATo: esd-translators@fsf.org=0ASubject: ESD-tran=
slators Digest, Vol 58, Issue 11=0A=0ASend ESD-translators mailing list sub=
missions to=0A=09esd-translators@fsf.org=0A=0ATo subscribe or unsubscribe v=
ia the World Wide Web, visit=0A=09https://lists.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/es=
d-translators=0Aor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' t=
o=0A=09esd-translators-request@fsf.org=0A=0AYou can reach the person managi=
ng the list at=0A=09esd-translators-owner@fsf.org=0A=0AWhen replying, pleas=
e edit your Subject line so it is more specific=0Athan "Re: Contents of ESD=
-translators digest..."=0A=0A=0AToday's Topics:=0A=0A   1. Re: Polish trans=
lation (Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba)=0A=0A=0A-------------------------------------=
---------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 1=0ADate: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 =
22:29:50 +0100=0AFrom: Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba <szaroblekitny@gmail.com>=0ATo:=
 esd-translators@fsf.org=0ASubject: Re: [ESD-translators] Polish translatio=
n=0AMessage-ID: <726656b2-19d6-1e02-ddc8-90f0a9f1acae@gmail.com>=0AContent-=
Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed"=0A=0AHi Irena=0A=0AA=
fter solving the problem of logging into the git repository, I find =0Athat=
 the Polish translation was not done at all, so we start from =0Ascratch. I=
 think now we need to get acquainted with the technical side =0Aof the work=
, and then establish some sort of partition of work.=0A=0ARegards=0A=0AWojc=
iech=0A=0A=0AW dniu 2022-12-04 o=C2=A000:00, info@irenawypych.com pisze:=0A=
> Hi Wojciech,=0A>=0A> from what I understand, based on the ESD-translators=
 archive, there has been no translation work done into Polish as of yet. I =
am new here though; if someone has more knowledge about the PL version, I h=
ope they will add some info to this thread.=0A> Assuming no previous work h=
as been done, starting from scratch sounds like a reasonable idea.=0A>=0A> =
Best=0A> Irena=0A>=0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> From:esd-translators-=
request@fsf.org=0A> Sent: Saturday, 3 December, 2022 13:09=0A> To:esd-trans=
lators@fsf.org=0A> Subject: ESD-translators Digest, Vol 58, Issue 3=0A>=0A>=
 Send ESD-translators mailing list submissions to=0A> =09esd-translators@fs=
f.org=0A>=0A> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit=0A>=
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l, send a message with subject or body 'help' to=0A> =09esd-translators-req=
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t line so it is more specific=0A> than "Re: Contents of ESD-translators dig=
est..."=0A>=0A>=0A> Today's Topics:=0A>=0A>     1. Re: Polish translation (=
Irena Wypych)=0A>     2. Re: Polish translation (Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba)=0A> =
    3. Typos Re: Substantial update to the Email Self-Defense guide=0A>    =
    (Besnik Bleta)=0A>=0A>=0A> --------------------------------------------=
--------------------------=0A>=0A> Message: 1=0A> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 20:=
09:05 +0100=0A> From: Irena Wypych<info@irenawypych.com>=0A> To:esd-transla=
tors@fsf.org=0A> Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] Polish translation=0A> Mess=
age-ID:<2005f812-d70d-dce7-87cb-8a9a6c1cae93@irenawypych.com>=0A> Content-T=
ype: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed=0A>=0A> Hi Wojciech,=0A>=
=0A> I have been contemplating translating the manual into Polish for a=0A>=
 while, I will gladly join forces.=0A>=0A> Regards=0A>=0A> Irena=0A>=0A> W =
dniu 2.12.2022 o=C2=A018:00,esd-translators-request@fsf.org  pisze=0A>> Tod=
ay's Topics:=0A>>=0A>>      1. Polish translation (Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba)=0A=
>>=0A>>=0A>> --------------------------------------------------------------=
--------=0A>>=0A>> Message: 1=0A>> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 22:18:10 +0100=0A>=
> From: Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba<szaroblekitny@gmail.com>=0A>> To: Translatorzy=
 ESD<esd-translators@fsf.org>=0A>> Subject: [ESD-translators] Polish transl=
ation=0A>> Message-ID:<f13ddfc3-79a2-ec77-68d9-b4d393db22d4@gmail.com>=0A>>=
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed"=0A>>=0A>> H=
i,=0A>>=0A>> If anyone is working on translating the Email Self-Defense man=
ual into=0A>> Polish, I'd be happy to help. The idea of email encryption is=
 not very=0A>> popular and I believe that it needs to be supported not only=
 in English.=0A>> I don't have much experience with encryption techniques, =
but I've=0A>> participated in translating technical texts. However, I don't=
 think that=0A>> I can do the translation alone.=0A>>=0A>> Regards=0A>>=0A>=
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.com>=0A> To:esd-translators@fsf.org=0A> Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] Pol=
ish translation=0A> Message-ID:<a66daba2-ff59-30fb-5c2b-13aa9b16a8d8@gmail.=
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=0A> Hi Irena,=0A>=0A> I would like to know if you already have any experie=
nce with the=0A> procedures and customs here? Has anyone tried to translate=
 something=0A> into Polish? Or should we start from scratch and work out ou=
r rules=0A> (accepted phrases, translations of specialized terms, etc.)?=0A=
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Irena Wypych pisze:=0A>> Hi Wojciech,=0A>>=0A>> I have been contemplating t=
ranslating the manual into Polish for a=0A>> while, I will gladly join forc=
es.=0A>>=0A>> Regards=0A>>=0A>> Irena=0A>>=0A>> W dniu 2.12.2022 o=C2=A018:=
00,esd-translators-request@fsf.org  pisze=0A>>> Today's Topics:=0A>>>=0A>>>=
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>>=0A>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------=
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> From: Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba<szaroblekitny@gmail.com>=0A>>> To: Translatorz=
y ESD<esd-translators@fsf.org>=0A>>> Subject: [ESD-translators] Polish tran=
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=0A>>> Hi,=0A>>>=0A>>> If anyone is working on translating the Email Self-D=
efense manual into=0A>>> Polish, I'd be happy to help. The idea of email en=
cryption is not very=0A>>> popular and I believe that it needs to be suppor=
ted not only in English.=0A>>> I don't have much experience with encryption=
 techniques, but I've=0A>>> participated in translating technical texts. Ho=
wever, I don't think that=0A>>> I can do the translation alone.=0A>>>=0A>>>=
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ment.sig>=0A>=0A> ------------------------------=0A>=0A> Message: 3=0A> Dat=
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plain; charset=3DUTF-8=0A>=0A>=0A> Hello!=0A>=0A> Trying to update sq trans=
lation, I found :=0A>=0A> 1. In your email program, go back to the first en=
crypted email that=0A> Edward sent you. Because Edward encrypted it with yo=
ur public key, it=0A> will have a green checkmark a at the top "OpenPGP" bu=
tton.=0A>=0A> The =E2=80=9Ca at=E2=80=9D should read =E2=80=9Cat=E2=80=9D.=
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n=0A> person this key has the correct fingerprint"</i>.=0A>=0A> There=E2=80=
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Hello Tom,

Le 03/12/2022 à 14:26, Tom a écrit :
> I also found another unmatched quote in Step 4.b Troubleshooting:
>  > This usually means you imported the key with the "unaccepted 
> (unverified) option."
> 
> It should be "Accepted (unverified)". I found it when I recheck my 
> translation with Localize Mozilla 
> (https://pontoon.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/).
> 

I agree that there is no "unaccepted (unverified)" option, but you
don't need to verify a key in order to encrypt a message with it. You
only need to accept it.

In the version of Thunderbird I am using (102.5.0), the dialog is:
> Do you accept this key for verifying digital signatures and for encrypting messages?
> - No, reject this key.
> - Not yet, maybe later.
> - Yes, but I have not verified that it is the correct key.
> - Yes, I've verified in person this key has the correct fingerprint.

I think "unaccepted (unverified)" refers to the first 2 options. It 
should probably read "unaccepted".

Best,
Thérèse



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On 15/12/2022 18:40, Thérèse Godefroy wrote:
> Hello Tom,
> 
> Le 03/12/2022 à 14:26, Tom a écrit :
>> I also found another unmatched quote in Step 4.b Troubleshooting:
>>  > This usually means you imported the key with the "unaccepted 
>> (unverified) option."
>>
>> It should be "Accepted (unverified)". I found it when I recheck my 
>> translation with Localize Mozilla 
>> (https://pontoon.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/).
>>
> 
> I agree that there is no "unaccepted (unverified)" option, but you
> don't need to verify a key in order to encrypt a message with it. You
> only need to accept it.
> 
> In the version of Thunderbird I am using (102.5.0), the dialog is:
>> Do you accept this key for verifying digital signatures and for 
>> encrypting messages?
>> - No, reject this key.
>> - Not yet, maybe later.
>> - Yes, but I have not verified that it is the correct key.
>> - Yes, I've verified in person this key has the correct fingerprint.
> 
> I think "unaccepted (unverified)" refers to the first 2 options. It 
> should probably read "unaccepted".
> 
> Best,
> Thérèse
> 

In the import dialog, the exact wording is "Not accepted (undecided)".


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On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 12:43:24 -0500
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> Dear Besik, dear Tom,
>=20
> Could you please translate the following string for the Albanian /
> 'sq' and Chinese / 'zh-hans' translations and send the results to me:
>=20
> sed -i "s/this site's tor onion service/this site's clearnet URL/g"=20
> /var/www/enc-tor/en/index.html

Here you are for sq:

sed -i "s/sh=C3=ABrbimi onion tor i k=C3=ABtij sajti/URL e k=C3=ABtij sajti=
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rrjetin e duksh=C3=ABm/g"

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Hello all,

Miriam made several changes to index.html, and I applied the fixes that 
Besnik and Tom suggested in "Typos Re: Substantial update..."

The POs are ready. Happy updating!

All the best,
Thérèse


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On 12/16/22 01:49, Thérèse Godefroy wrote:
> In the import dialog, the exact wording is "Not accepted (undecided)".

Correct!

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Hello!

On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 10:31:27 +0100
Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se Godefroy <godef.th@free.fr> wrote:

> Happy updating!
>=20
> All the best,
> Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se

I followed the usual step for sq and I=E2=80=99m doing a last check
using git diff. For the next_steps.html it returns a change
for which I not sure:

-value=3D"https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/sq/confirmation.html"
name=3D"postURL"
+value=3D"https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/confirmation.html"
name=3D"postURL"

Should that be /en/ (copied probably by me over /sq/) or should
all URLs of that kind be relative to locale directory of a language?

Best,
Besnik



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    <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Verdana">I have a pretty basic
          question: is the only branch used for push and pull is master?
          Should I just make all the changes I make for the Polish
          language in master and just push? No acceptance? No merge?<br>
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Hello!

On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 18:15:21 +0100
Wojciech Zar=C4=99ba <szaroblekitny@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>=20
> I have a pretty basic question: is the only branch used for push and=20
> pull is master? Should I just make all the changes I make for the
> Polish language in master and just push? No acceptance? No merge?
Yes, there=E2=80=99s only master for now and everybody push to that branch.
But you cannot publish your translation in the production site. Someone
from the project did that for me last time and that=E2=80=99s what you shou=
ld
expect.

Besnik


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Le 17/12/2022 à 18:15, Wojciech Zaręba a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I have a pretty basic question: is the only branch used for push and 
> pull is master? Should I just make all the changes I make for the Polish 
> language in master and just push? No acceptance? No merge?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Wojciech Zaręba
> 
> 

Hello Wojciech,

Yes, there is only one branch because "enc" is a development repo. There
is no acceptance, and no merge (except if you forget to pull before you
push). :)

You can commit a partially updated PO file if you wish. We usually start
commit messages with the language code:
"pl: ..."

When the translated pages are ready to publish, you should say so on the
list. One of the persons who have write access to the "enc-live" repo
will copy them there, and add the list of languages. Then your
translation will appear on emailselfdefense.fsf.org.

In the meantime, you can check it on the development server:
https://enc-dev0.fsf.org/LANG/ [1]
(No need to set up a local Apache server!)

All the best,
Thérèse

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Le 17/12/2022 à 18:02, Besnik Bleta a écrit :
> 
> Hello!
> 
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 10:31:27 +0100
> Thérèse Godefroy <godef.th@free.fr> wrote:
> 
>> Happy updating!
>>
>> All the best,
>> Thérèse
> 
> I followed the usual step for sq and I’m doing a last check
> using git diff. For the next_steps.html it returns a change
> for which I not sure:
> 
> -value="https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/sq/confirmation.html"
> name="postURL"
> +value="https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/confirmation.html"
> name="postURL"
> 
> Should that be /en/ (copied probably by me over /sq/) or should
> all URLs of that kind be relative to locale directory of a language?
> 
> Best,
> Besnik
> 

Hello Besnik,

Thanks for detecting this bug! It also affects fr, ru and tr (and plenty
more 'old' translations). This probably happened because we all
copy-pasted this ugly string without noticing that the link needed to be
localized.

It would be much safer to use a local URL:
value="../confirmation.html"
I'm going to edit next_steps.html unless someone thinks this wouldn't
work.

All the best,
Thérèse


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Hello,
my name is Radim, and I would like to help with CZ translation.
Is there someone working on Czech translation already?

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Hello Radim,

Great you want to do that! I have translated one of the previous 
versions but didn't have time to make it for the updates. I think the PO 
files should still contain the text that didn't change between the 
versions so perhaps you don't need to start from scratch. Could someone 
confirm that?

Let me know how it is going, perhaps I could find some time to do the 
proofreading, although I am no expert in translations.

Regards,
Tomas

Radim Krivošík:
> Hello,
> my name is Radim, and I would like to help with CZ translation.
> Is there someone working on Czech translation already?
> 
> Regards
> Radim
> 
> 
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Le 21/12/2022 à 15:00, Radim Krivošík a écrit :
> Hello,
> my name is Radim, and I would like to help with CZ translation.
> Is there someone working on Czech translation already?
> 
> Regards
> Radim
> 

Hello Radim,

Welcome on board!

Version 4.0 was translated to Czech by Tomáš Starý <tomichec@gmail.com>
and Josef "Joe" Hlaváč <joe@hw.cz> in 2016. But it was retired when
version 5 was published, because there were too many changes. The old
translations are still accessible in the /old/ directory of the
development repo:

     https://enc-dev0.fsf.org/old/cs/

At the root of this repo, you will find a partially translated PO file
(see the Translation Guide [0]) showing differences with the current
version:

     https://enc-dev0.fsf.org/esd-cs.po

Let's hope you can contact at least one of the original translators, and
persuade them to team up with you. If not, do you know someone who can
proofread your translation?

All the best,

Thérèse
(French translator)

[0] https://libreplanet.org/wiki/GPG_guide/Translation_Guide


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I just noticed that the SKS website was replaced with Mailvelope Key 
Server. I haven't used Mailvelope before, but I think keys.openpgp.org 
is the most famous server in the community. And there is Edward bot's 
key on OpenPGP but not on Mailvelope:

https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=edward-en%40fsf.org
https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=edward-en%40fsf.org

So maybe should add keys.openpgp.org on it?

-- 
Tom


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Oh, I just find Mailvelop was removed by Miriam a few days ago. But POT
template haven't update:/

在 2022/12/28 22:56, Tom 写道:
> I just noticed that the SKS website was replaced with Mailvelope Key 
> Server. I haven't used Mailvelope before, but I think keys.openpgp.org 
> is the most famous server in the community. And there is Edward bot's 
> key on OpenPGP but not on Mailvelope:
> 
> https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=edward-en%40fsf.org
> https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=edward-en%40fsf.org
> 
> So maybe should add keys.openpgp.org on it?
> 


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Hello Tom, hello everyone,

Le 28/12/2022 à 16:24, Tom a écrit :
> Oh, I just find Mailvelop was removed by Miriam a few days ago. But POT
> template haven't update:/
> 
> 在 2022/12/28 22:56, Tom 写道:
>> I just noticed that the SKS website was replaced with Mailvelope Key 
>> Server. I haven't used Mailvelope before, but I think keys.openpgp.org 
>> is the most famous server in the community. And there is Edward bot's 
>> key on OpenPGP but not on Mailvelope:
>>
>> https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=edward-en%40fsf.org
>> https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=edward-en%40fsf.org
>>
>> So maybe should add keys.openpgp.org on it?
>>
> 

Sorry, I didn't merge the POs when Miriam changed the English version
because I only look at the repo when changes are posted on
esd-translators@.

Now the POs are merged.

All the best,
Thérèse



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Le 28/12/2022 à 16:56, Tom a écrit :
> Thanks Thérèse!!
> 
> 在 2022/12/28 23:41, Thérèse Godefroy 写道:
>> Sorry, I didn't merge the POs when Miriam changed the English version
>> because I only look at the repo when changes are posted on
>> esd-translators@.
>>
>> Now the POs are merged.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Thérèse
>>
>>

Tom, the updated Chinese translation should be online shortly.



