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Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:unhTUYOXcyMThVMOZL6AGska1wKggeESYpo3y2Zq6mgxVWMmaHN 7dsoSqnsEqd74zWaEbdGWSqZputhcBVErafs5YSDBUWheDJrIPgl/Kyw4AltANxuNy1AJHK UlZsTja0EKyWe+tG86xD6ac0tCKTZlcJU+92/Az/ZuwawSS7O4H9K6OpuHQqvthg6ng1tjr U3cdMAbOeefSMnvQE7D4w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qS/VVuf1S6A=:tSKYZNYAYuOEbdU3jRqxDc LCQZjrSszqSUEaJg9jQ8DKoOwLlAnGwIg4jVNJ3oqM6AhD71E7DzB7CHk/KM49UPr4KyK7PiL bwYur1w2r7+NUYyZRwgdyqhNOmEYxF3W03NfREDg2bR45lQEHoieD77hIKrqfElcf1RGQJlRT ay1ADN87Xr8KxzsKhWopz1hHX+mEHqHQTDXX4JEc6xoi38jTLcLr/rbI0M6t8WHPwKwda7ya+ 2C5g46DoKeU93fCOCbO9MLaERQIIfLiCIWQ8U1/hmMMmTxkauVPakcUP4RwNtGreCBD01aXxB csGY3bmAEnmkk45xOTWKOXo6iVKtg3HGkvWVzR1nrLmaP7f+Tw0GCXDLQ+ha6hTv2WqfH6bs8 /+UzKxZwm/ni9LhZnyxKAgyZH01uoNEbjZ9wFdO7LLI+vOrK+UqXO5OwiGG6CNRjwT6U9Jocq 1q/a6KOVCsGqTn5LPdAPBlhT3SFTi2gM18TOkkO1pEf4dIyR/1tqtZjvI/02Mv3stepDZ61nV JIXPu4tadGaWuvMT+oO7I3cdmJDJCADwmak0oj72ktvJW/+YTfXAzTil/pDpOwaQFkmM3a2M4 SLEy7l8TTTEB2s3Xi9rSnBL+IquSiyKLuKmr5D3GJSqtvhvZ3UkJQsWwRkhrvqJf5YBzls6yS B77GEXCkyiSbEGG360PkJ3/nPdXoZkvNst3WSvNCnHdO9FlJq0DsZrosS/AeRxqzeM2Mt7tmS K/rnXiTmIaj8SCmAAfTHD3pQknavniCBwcWIBQQQsMuu0qrSXvQ1GkL0dVlV1IvBXWwTGzhob 5ErfBv7RoMnkQtuGA4Bskryl/wTgnIQo3pMWZyDfAxEbrNDgiXYwaEJTCGWVzXCxCNeHHsWjd 4ttbdtNy31DoheyrXQM6lfh9t3OzMYnJorFLvij166HpOk3ZfjEiCxMw3mdHrl X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] Subject: [ESD-translators] Translation English to German X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:12:33 -0000 Hi fellow translators! I would like to contribute to the translation of the ESD guide into the German language. I saw that there German guide lacks behind in the new version of the guide and thought I could contribute to speed up the V4.0 release. Sincerely, Fabian Egli From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 16 09:41:03 2019 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gjmNL-0001ms-GG for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:41:03 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([209.51.188.13]:53923) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gjmNI-0001ml-HQ for esd-translators@fsf.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:41:01 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([209.51.188.10]:36607) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1gjmNI-0008OI-83 for esd-translators@fsf.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:41:00 -0500 Received: from ineiev by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gjmNH-0004R5-NH; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:40:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:40:59 -0500 From: Ineiev To: Fabian Egli Message-ID: <20190116144059.GG22949@gnu.org> References: <6aab933f-7336-4abd-38ec-2009b131ead7@gmx.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6aab933f-7336-4abd-38ec-2009b131ead7@gmx.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] Cc: esd-translators@fsf.org Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] Translation English to German X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:41:01 -0000 --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Fabian! On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 05:12:28PM +0100, Fabian Egli wrote: >=20 > I would like to contribute to the translation of the ESD guide into the > German language. I saw that there German guide lacks behind in the new > version of the guide and thought I could contribute to speed up the V4.0 > release. Thanks for volunteering! Have you contacted FSF people about access to the repository? --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEvZ1N7nsv8cvvLuDE4KzT4Mvnh0oFAlw/QnsACgkQ4KzT4Mvn h0rePwgAqMtbXM7UkjLNDl5kuEHbvmrw30Oy3V6ECidDNttuuKxf2/WElcrUgWZY TecetZ8rU5OJUmg2mRgqOyVJB1a8yBMmO3rdXwyscmlUHhcsQ1oH6e7I3Js4/3wA l1gYJmTQ2dq1H9IBZrn5Wrf2ft9XnzXFkZFEfRG6igk2i2WzH9GA4zdPqCyYLU+L hjC52RwUrGsbQwaE4GujaiUC4h7Givoi47Nih6Yeo86b8XQO8xNAsIp2OLloe2vF +1Sb4dBqZbmJL30NHXRH0C3+xJngiUv7NGzSnCE0LQH4DPH9syrmwZbl45FSA/cR u7SLjWIwkFn6KghVprJl+zUANQJDYg== =VBEt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS-- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 16 14:17:00 2019 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gjqgO-0001jh-2n for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:17:00 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([209.51.188.13]:57829) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gjqgK-0001ja-NV for esd-translators@fsf.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:16:57 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([209.51.188.10]:39970) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1gjqgK-0002jd-Hy for esd-translators@fsf.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:16:56 -0500 Received: from ineiev by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gjqgK-0004Wi-EV; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:16:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:16:56 -0500 From: Ineiev To: Fabian Egli Message-ID: <20190116191656.GI22949@gnu.org> References: <6aab933f-7336-4abd-38ec-2009b131ead7@gmx.ch> <20190116144059.GG22949@gnu.org> <950eae75-6a30-b8c2-dd03-cf85d03c817d@gmx.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VuQYccsttdhdIfIP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <950eae75-6a30-b8c2-dd03-cf85d03c817d@gmx.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] Cc: esd-translators@fsf.org Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] Translation English to German X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 19:16:58 -0000 --VuQYccsttdhdIfIP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 07:46:54PM +0100, Fabian Egli wrote: > > > > Have you contacted FSF people about access to the repository? > A short notice, including my ssh public key, was sent to > sysadmin@fsf.org and campaigns@fsf.org. Let us wait for their response. > I just tried to clone the repo with `git clone git@vcs.fsf.org:enc.git > --recursive`=A0 as described on > but I am not sure about the FSF server fingerprint. Can you verify this > is the correct one? > RSA key fingerprint is SHA256:ze6oKUo8Ty1msvis0za7ZrU548uTvxBTnD4GhEsuzR0. Yes, this is what I have in my known_hosts. > It seems to me that https://enc-dev0.fsf.org/ is not publicly available > as described here: > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/GPG_guide/Translation_Guide under "Using > the git repository". But I suppose I will know more about that once I > get the OK from the FSF people. Yes. > Do you happen to know whether someone is already working on this > translation and if so who that is? 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boundary="PpGkeLtMYisn2ybT6uJscXJgPy0lc34bx"; protected-headers="v1" From: Fabian Egli To: esd-translators@fsf.org Message-ID: <790d2686-ad1c-34c8-29f8-47cc20d723fd@gmx.ch> Subject: Translations of text with links to resources in English --PpGkeLtMYisn2ybT6uJscXJgPy0lc34bx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-GB Hi Translators, I believe there is an issue with the translation when it comes to passages that reference sources in English. e.g. the paragraph containing "Make a secure passphrase with Diceware" and the link to the article. Although this is a nice article explaining the problem and the solution (Diceware) well and relatively concise, this will not help anyone who does not understand English. Is it allowed to reference and link to other equivalent resources in the language that the ESD guide is being translated into? I would propose to link to the German Wikipedia article on Diceware in this case which describes how to generate Diceware passwords and also links the German word list. Is it acceptable to deviate from the English version in this case? Ho about links to other resources? I am looking forward to hear back from you! 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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <790d2686-ad1c-34c8-29f8-47cc20d723fd@gmx.ch> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aBEwl4gk86H35roAQ8qCTXvsLZwgwWVch" X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: Windows NT kernel [generic] [fuzzy] Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] Translations of text with links to resources in English X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:44:43 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --aBEwl4gk86H35roAQ8qCTXvsLZwgwWVch Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BJGlWnwcPFlSqvE667nzO0LEW9Jqpu846"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?B?VGjDqXLDqHNlIEdvZGVmcm95?= To: esd-translators@fsf.org Message-ID: <1985df8d-2d58-8d65-1ee4-71148cfc940d@free.fr> Subject: Re: Translations of text with links to resources in English References: <790d2686-ad1c-34c8-29f8-47cc20d723fd@gmx.ch> In-Reply-To: <790d2686-ad1c-34c8-29f8-47cc20d723fd@gmx.ch> --BJGlWnwcPFlSqvE667nzO0LEW9Jqpu846 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: fr-FR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Fabian, Le 29/01/2019 =C3=A0 18:26, Fabian Egli a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > Hi Translators, >=20 > I believe there is an issue with the translation when it comes to > passages that reference sources in English. e.g. the paragraph > containing "Make a secure passphrase with Diceware" and the link to the= > article. Although this is a nice article explaining the problem and the= > solution (Diceware) well and relatively concise, this will not help > anyone who does not understand English. Is it allowed to reference and > link to other equivalent resources in the language that the ESD guide i= s > being translated into? I would propose to link to the German Wikipedia > article on Diceware in this case which describes how to generate > Diceware passwords and also links the German word list. >=20 > Is it acceptable to deviate from the English version in this case? Yes, I think so. > Ho > about links to other resources? Wikipedia articles are OK. For the other resources, you need to make sure they are accessible without nonfree JavaScript, don't have a paywall, don't advertise proprietary software, etc. The gnu.org linking policies are described here: https://www.gnu.org/server/standards/gnu-website-guidelines.html#pollinki= ng I assume this applies to the FSF as well. > I am looking forward to hear back from you! >=20 > Sincerely, >=20 > Fabian All the best, Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se --BJGlWnwcPFlSqvE667nzO0LEW9Jqpu846-- --aBEwl4gk86H35roAQ8qCTXvsLZwgwWVch Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJcUJ8UAAoJEN8zjwg4B5Hv5OkH/ArmxG548YKCgGoyFnfojx/f Z5ZnyB5OWmmtgnx7kxc8i5n0slqcMokCKaxfMrg4xe6ISb/TsWL8ss8f2QgLfSHq p/q4Up9sK2L6j0CkA/xZvdhrhWWNBQjdwCkP97VtpXWLvHzsolTqcDJHZgBfYLLv 362M4y8cTQCH/n14sswy4VQWuk8iMFb+MnnpxLlA7UT1rRRd7qaecPYri+9qS5Et f+MLyQ6euFjtFilWmawdNvl2jOXih+NPL2kdRLddg6sCEpkKhvZllE+fR2PXHnnC lJ5Uk/cBbdhp18+NuZRNfH6p6+X2A6c7IZs6XFtXoWzh4LRrDuBoHDJzsXVceXE= =4Rfr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aBEwl4gk86H35roAQ8qCTXvsLZwgwWVch--