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Hello,

I am Madhumathi third year btech CS student from India.I would like to do
my first contribution for the project "Updating email self defence
guide"Please let me know on how to get started as I am very confused.Thank
you.

*Thanks,*
*Madhumathi*
*S6 CSE*
*"You can't expect to hold supreme executive power just because some watery
tart lobbed a sword at you"*

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Hello Madhumathi,

Le 12/03/2018 18:47, Madhumathi a =C3=A9crit :
> Hello,
>=20
> I am Madhumathi third year btech CS student from India.I would like to
> do my first contribution for the project "Updating email self defence
> guide"Please let me know on how to get started as I am very
> confused.Thank you.
>=20
> *Thanks,*
> *Madhumathi*
> *S6 CSE*
> /"You can't expect to hold supreme executive power just because some
> watery tart lobbed a sword at you"/*
> *

Thanks a lot for volunteering. I understand you would like to translate
the guide to your own language. Is that right?
Which language is it?
Do you know anybody who would be able to proofread your translation?
This is a very important point, as we found out.

Our translations are under version control, in a Git repository. If you
create a new translation team, you will need write access to this
repository (and also learn the basics of Git if you haven't used it
before - but this isn't difficult, you'll see). You will also need to
subscribe to the ESD mailing list:
https://lists.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/esd-translators

I suggest you contact the responsible person, Molly De Blanc
<molly@fsf.org>.

Best regards,
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> El 12 de marzo de 2018 a las 21:52 Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se Godefroy <godef.th@f=
ree.fr> escribi=C3=B3:
>=20
>=20
> Hello Madhumathi,
>=20
> Le 12/03/2018 18:47, Madhumathi a =C3=A9crit :
> > Hello,
> >=20
> > I am Madhumathi third year btech CS student from India.I would like to
> > do my first contribution for the project "Updating email self defence
> > guide"Please let me know on how to get started as I am very
> > confused.Thank you.
> >=20
> > *Thanks,*
> > *Madhumathi*
> > *S6 CSE*
> > /"You can't expect to hold supreme executive power just because some
> > watery tart lobbed a sword at you"/*
> > *
>=20
> Thanks a lot for volunteering. I understand you would like to translate
> the guide to your own language. Is that right?
> Which language is it?
> Do you know anybody who would be able to proofread your translation?
> This is a very important point, as we found out.
>=20
> Our translations are under version control, in a Git repository. If you
> create a new translation team, you will need write access to this
> repository (and also learn the basics of Git if you haven't used it
> before - but this isn't difficult, you'll see). You will also need to
> subscribe to the ESD mailing list:
> https://lists.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/esd-translators
>=20
> I suggest you contact the responsible person, Molly De Blanc
> <molly@fsf.org>.
>=20
> Best regards,
> Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se
>=20

Hello!
Great to see you on board! :)
If you have some questions just ask here!

Happy hacking!


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Hi,

I am Sushma K, from India. Currently final year undergrad in CS stream.

*My skills*

Github: Advance
HHTML/CSS/JS : Advance
NLP Translations: Medium

I have finished configuring GPG key fingerprint and also sent an encrypted
email to mentor - Molly. (can someone confirm her email id -- I would like
to cross check)


Also, want to know how to begin my proposal and record my contributions. (I
don't see any public repo of codes to contribute to Project#3 - Email self
defense guide update).

Thankyou,

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any public repo of codes to contribute to Project#3 - Email self defense gu=
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Le 14/03/2018 11:05, kukkadapu sushma a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi,
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>=20
> _My skills_
>=20
> Github: Advance
> HHTML/CSS/JS : Advance
> NLP Translations: Medium=20
>=20
> I have finished configuring GPG key fingerprint and also sent an
> encrypted email to mentor - Molly. (can someone confirm her email id --
> I would like to cross check)
>=20
>=20
> Also, want to know how to begin my proposal and record my contributions=
.
> (I don't see any public repo of codes to contribute to Project#3 - Emai=
l
> self defense guide update).=20
>=20
> Thankyou,=20
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> --=20
> K Sushma

Hello Sushma,

Thanks a lot for volunteering. I assume you plan to translate Email
Self-Defense into your own language. Yesterday, another CS student from
India volunteered for the same project. In the event his/her native
language is the same as yours, would you consider forming a team with
this person? This would of course have to be discussed with Molly.

The Email Self-Defense translation project has a Git repository that is
served publicly to the web at https://enc-dev0.fsf.org. If you unfold
the language list, you will see all the current translations. Some of
them are marker "TIP" (translation in progress), and one of these TIPs
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We look forward to working with you.

Best regards,
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Hi,

Yes, I have been through the site: https://enc-dev0.fsf.org and also
finished "Setting ENIGMAIL and GPG" and understood how this works.
I have an intention of translating to "Hindi language" - as it's our
national language.

> Regarding teaming up - I have no issues, but as you said Molly must tell
if that's possible.


Thank you :)

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se Godefroy <godef.th@free.=
fr> wrote:

> Le 14/03/2018 11:05, kukkadapu sushma a =C3=A9crit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am Sushma K, from India. Currently final year undergrad in CS stream.
> >
> > _My skills_
> >
> > Github: Advance
> > HHTML/CSS/JS : Advance
> > NLP Translations: Medium
> >
> > I have finished configuring GPG key fingerprint and also sent an
> > encrypted email to mentor - Molly. (can someone confirm her email id --
> > I would like to cross check)
> >
> >
> > Also, want to know how to begin my proposal and record my contributions=
.
> > (I don't see any public repo of codes to contribute to Project#3 - Emai=
l
> > self defense guide update).
> >
> > Thankyou,
> >
> > --
> > K Sushma
>
> Hello Sushma,
>
> Thanks a lot for volunteering. I assume you plan to translate Email
> Self-Defense into your own language. Yesterday, another CS student from
> India volunteered for the same project. In the event his/her native
> language is the same as yours, would you consider forming a team with
> this person? This would of course have to be discussed with Molly.
>
> The Email Self-Defense translation project has a Git repository that is
> served publicly to the web at https://enc-dev0.fsf.org. If you unfold
> the language list, you will see all the current translations. Some of
> them are marker "TIP" (translation in progress), and one of these TIPs
> is the Malayalam translation. It would be great if Malayalam happened to
> be your native language!
>
> We look forward to working with you.
>
> Best regards,
> Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se
>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Yes, I have been through the site:=
=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://enc-dev0.fsf.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
lank" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:=
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rmal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px=
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gb(255,255,255)">https://enc-dev0.fsf.org</a><span style=3D"font-size:12.8p=
x">=C2=A0and also finished &quot;Setting ENIGMAIL and GPG&quot; and underst=
ood how this works.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">I hav=
e an intention of translating to &quot;Hindi language&quot; - as it&#39;s o=
ur national language.=C2=A0</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8p=
x"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">&gt; Regarding te=
aming up - I have no issues, but as you said Molly must tell if that&#39;s =
possible.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A0</span></=
div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.8px">Thank you :)=C2=A0</span></div></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:30 PM, =
Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se Godefroy <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:godef.th=
@free.fr" target=3D"_blank">godef.th@free.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">Le 14/03/2018 11:05, kukkadapu s=
ushma a =C3=A9crit :<br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am Sushma K, from India. Currently final year undergrad in CS stream=
.<br>
&gt;<br>
</span>&gt; _My skills_<br>
<span class=3D"">&gt;<br>
&gt; Github: Advance<br>
&gt; HHTML/CSS/JS : Advance<br>
&gt; NLP Translations: Medium<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I have finished configuring GPG key fingerprint and also sent an<br>
&gt; encrypted email to mentor - Molly. (can someone confirm her email id -=
-<br>
&gt; I would like to cross check)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Also, want to know how to begin my proposal and record my contribution=
s.<br>
&gt; (I don&#39;t see any public repo of codes to contribute to Project#3 -=
 Email<br>
&gt; self defense guide update).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thankyou,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; K Sushma<br>
<br>
</span>Hello Sushma,<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot for volunteering. I assume you plan to translate Email<br>
Self-Defense into your own language. Yesterday, another CS student from<br>
India volunteered for the same project. In the event his/her native<br>
language is the same as yours, would you consider forming a team with<br>
this person? This would of course have to be discussed with Molly.<br>
<br>
The Email Self-Defense translation project has a Git repository that is<br>
served publicly to the web at <a href=3D"https://enc-dev0.fsf.org" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://enc-dev0.fsf.org</a>. If you unfold<br=
>
the language list, you will see all the current translations. Some of<br>
them are marker &quot;TIP&quot; (translation in progress), and one of these=
 TIPs<br>
is the Malayalam translation. It would be great if Malayalam happened to<br=
>
be your native language!<br>
<br>
We look forward to working with you.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
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Le 14/03/2018 12:11, Madhumathi a =C3=A9crit :
> Hello Therese,
>=20
> I am not comfortable translating in my native language.But I can give i=
t
> a try.But I thought apart from translation,I could work on something
> else.lIke updating the infographic,documentation(in english).I am very
> much fluent with english,so if there is any work I can contribute in
> english would be a great oppurtunity for me.
>=20
> *Thanks,*
> *Madhumathi*
> *S6 CSE

Hello Madhumathi,

This mailing list is mainly dealing with translations. We can of course
suggest changes to the English version, but we cannot implement them.
Molly will tell you whether any updates are needed to the infographic
documentation.

You may be interested to learn that another CS student from India
applied to the Outreachy "EmailSelf-Defense update" project. I don't
know her native language any more than I know yours, but this is how she
rates her translation skills: "NLP Translations: Medium". If both of you
happen to have the same native language, you may consider teaming up
with her -- this is to be discussed with Molly, of course.
And it would be wonderful if this language was Malayalam! There is an
unfinished translation of Email Self-Defense in ML which has been
sitting around for years...

We are looking forward to working with you.

Best,
Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se


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Also,

I would be glad to work on tasks related to updating the website's look.
:)

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 5:30 PM, kukkadapu sushma <
kukkadapu.sushma12@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes, I have been through the site: https://enc-dev0.fsf.org and also
> finished "Setting ENIGMAIL and GPG" and understood how this works.
> I have an intention of translating to "Hindi language" - as it's our
> national language.
>
> > Regarding teaming up - I have no issues, but as you said Molly must tel=
l
> if that's possible.
>
>
> Thank you :)
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se Godefroy <godef.th@fre=
e.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> Le 14/03/2018 11:05, kukkadapu sushma a =C3=A9crit :
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I am Sushma K, from India. Currently final year undergrad in CS stream=
.
>> >
>> > _My skills_
>> >
>> > Github: Advance
>> > HHTML/CSS/JS : Advance
>> > NLP Translations: Medium
>> >
>> > I have finished configuring GPG key fingerprint and also sent an
>> > encrypted email to mentor - Molly. (can someone confirm her email id -=
-
>> > I would like to cross check)
>> >
>> >
>> > Also, want to know how to begin my proposal and record my contribution=
s.
>> > (I don't see any public repo of codes to contribute to Project#3 - Ema=
il
>> > self defense guide update).
>> >
>> > Thankyou,
>> >
>> > --
>> > K Sushma
>>
>> Hello Sushma,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for volunteering. I assume you plan to translate Email
>> Self-Defense into your own language. Yesterday, another CS student from
>> India volunteered for the same project. In the event his/her native
>> language is the same as yours, would you consider forming a team with
>> this person? This would of course have to be discussed with Molly.
>>
>> The Email Self-Defense translation project has a Git repository that is
>> served publicly to the web at https://enc-dev0.fsf.org. If you unfold
>> the language list, you will see all the current translations. Some of
>> them are marker "TIP" (translation in progress), and one of these TIPs
>> is the Malayalam translation. It would be great if Malayalam happened to
>> be your native language!
>>
>> We look forward to working with you.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se
>>
>
>
>
> --
> K Sushma
>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">Also,<div><br></div><div>I would be glad to work on tasks =
related to updating the website&#39;s look.</div><div>:)=C2=A0</div></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 14, 20=
18 at 5:30 PM, kukkadapu sushma <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kuk=
kadapu.sushma12@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kukkadapu.sushma12@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,=
<div><br></div><div>Yes, I have been through the site:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http=
s://enc-dev0.fsf.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);fon=
t-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-l=
igatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:nor=
mal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal=
;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://enc-dev0.fsf.org</a><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><wbr>=C2=A0and als=
o finished &quot;Setting ENIGMAIL and GPG&quot; and understood how this wor=
ks.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">I have an intention o=
f translating to &quot;Hindi language&quot; - as it&#39;s our national lang=
uage.=C2=A0</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></=
div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">&gt; Regarding teaming up - I hav=
e no issues, but as you said Molly must tell if that&#39;s possible.</span>=
</div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A0</span></div><div><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12=
.8px">Thank you :)=C2=A0</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div>=
<div class=3D"h5"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:=
30 PM, Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se Godefroy <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g=
odef.th@free.fr" target=3D"_blank">godef.th@free.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>Le 14/03/2018 11:05, kukkadapu sushm=
a a =C3=A9crit :<br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am Sushma K, from India. Currently final year undergrad in CS stream=
.<br>
&gt;<br>
</span>&gt; _My skills_<br>
<span>&gt;<br>
&gt; Github: Advance<br>
&gt; HHTML/CSS/JS : Advance<br>
&gt; NLP Translations: Medium<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I have finished configuring GPG key fingerprint and also sent an<br>
&gt; encrypted email to mentor - Molly. (can someone confirm her email id -=
-<br>
&gt; I would like to cross check)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Also, want to know how to begin my proposal and record my contribution=
s.<br>
&gt; (I don&#39;t see any public repo of codes to contribute to Project#3 -=
 Email<br>
&gt; self defense guide update).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thankyou,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; K Sushma<br>
<br>
</span>Hello Sushma,<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot for volunteering. I assume you plan to translate Email<br>
Self-Defense into your own language. Yesterday, another CS student from<br>
India volunteered for the same project. In the event his/her native<br>
language is the same as yours, would you consider forming a team with<br>
this person? This would of course have to be discussed with Molly.<br>
<br>
The Email Self-Defense translation project has a Git repository that is<br>
served publicly to the web at <a href=3D"https://enc-dev0.fsf.org" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://enc-dev0.fsf.org</a>. If you unfold<br=
>
the language list, you will see all the current translations. Some of<br>
them are marker &quot;TIP&quot; (translation in progress), and one of these=
 TIPs<br>
is the Malayalam translation. It would be great if Malayalam happened to<br=
>
be your native language!<br>
<br>
We look forward to working with you.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span c=
lass=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br><div class=3D"m_300299753643=
8366580gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">K Sushma</div>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">K Sushma</div>
</div>

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Hello, my name is Karina and I'm a Cyber Security student from Mexico.
I've been doing some reading on the Spanish version of the guide and I came
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El 14/03/18 a las 20:20, Karina Saucedo escribi=C3=B3:
> Hello, my name is Karina and I'm a Cyber Security student from Mexico.
> I've been doing some reading on the Spanish version of the guide and I =
came
> across with some mistakes so I think there is room for improvement.
> I would like to know how can I start contributing to the Spanish versio=
n of
> the guide.
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> Thank you.
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Hello Karina!

Thanks for your proofreading, will be great to improve o fix the spanish
translation.
I made last translations in the spanish version.

The code and translation is in a git repository.
Just check out this link:
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/GPG_guide/Translation_Guide

You can improve by your own, or if you want I can do it if you share
where did you find the mistakes.

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Hi,

I have gone through this link:
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/GPG_guide/Checking_Out

But, there's mentioned that FSF team should give access: Like an SSH key to
clone the repo, also to FORK the repo - I don't find any direct link.
(Project - #3 FSF, Outreachy)

Can someone help me here?

Thankyou

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I have gone through this link:=C2=
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coration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><a href=3D"https://librep=
lanet.org/wiki/GPG_guide/Checking_Out">https://libreplanet.org/wiki/GPG_gui=
de/Checking_Out</a></span></div><div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"-apple=
-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Helvetica Neue, Arial, sans-=
serif, Apple Color Emoji, Segoe UI Emoji, Segoe UI Symbol"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:16px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333333"><font f=
ace=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">But, there&#39;s mentioned that FSF team should =
give access: Like an SSH key to clone the repo, also to FORK the repo - I d=
on&#39;t find any direct link. (Project - #3 FSF, Outreachy)</font></font><=
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Hello;

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 07:01:57PM +0530, kukkadapu sushma wrote:
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> https://libreplanet.org/wiki/GPG_guide/Checking_Out
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> clone the repo, also to FORK the repo - I don't find any direct link.

This works for me (though it took a few minutes):

git clone https://vcs.fsf.org/git/enc.git

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Thank you :)
Will try!

> Also, do i need to check out my own branch to make any new edits/changes?
Or use 'master' branch?

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> Hello;
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 07:01:57PM +0530, kukkadapu sushma wrote:
> >
> > I have gone through this link:
> > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/GPG_guide/Checking_Out
> >
> > But, there's mentioned that FSF team should give access: Like an SSH key
> to
> > clone the repo, also to FORK the repo - I don't find any direct link.
>
> This works for me (though it took a few minutes):
>
> git clone https://vcs.fsf.org/git/enc.git
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you :)<div>Will try!</div><div><br></div><div>&gt; A=
lso, do i need to check out my own branch to make any new edits/changes? Or=
 use &#39;master&#39; branch?</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Ineiev <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ineiev@gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">ineiev@gnu=
.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello;<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 07:01:57PM +0530, kukkadapu sushma wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I have gone through this link:<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://libreplanet.org/wiki/GPG_guide/Checking_Out" rel=3D=
"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://libreplanet.org/wiki/<wbr>GPG_guide/=
Checking_Out</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But, there&#39;s mentioned that FSF team should give access: Like an S=
SH key to<br>
&gt; clone the repo, also to FORK the repo - I don&#39;t find any direct li=
nk.<br>
<br>
</span>This works for me (though it took a few minutes):<br>
<br>
git clone <a href=3D"https://vcs.fsf.org/git/enc.git" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://vcs.fsf.org/git/enc.<wbr>git</a><br>
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> Also, do i need to check out my own branch to make any new edits/changes?
> Or use 'master' branch?

Whichever you prefer; that command line was for read-only clone,
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Hi,

Yes, I understood that it's 'read-only' repo.
But in my case, to record a contribution under Outreachy project#3 -
Self-defense guide update, I need to make at least one contribution - As
the outreachy website allows '"Record contribution and then apply for org"'
process.

So, any help in regarding this issue?

Thank you

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:58 PM, Ineiev <ineiev@gnu.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 09:32:08PM +0530, kukkadapu sushma wrote:
> >
> > Also, do i need to check out my own branch to make any new edits/changes?
> > Or use 'master' branch?
>
> Whichever you prefer; that command line was for read-only clone,
> you are not to push it anywhere.
>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Yes, I understood that it&#39;s &#3=
9;read-only&#39; repo.</div><div>But in my case, to record a contribution u=
nder Outreachy project#3 - Self-defense guide update, I need to make at lea=
st one contribution - As the outreachy website allows &#39;&quot;Record con=
tribution and then apply for org&quot;&#39; process.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>So, any help in regarding this issue?</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you=
</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Th=
u, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:58 PM, Ineiev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
ineiev@gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">ineiev@gnu.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 09:3=
2:08PM +0530, kukkadapu sushma wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Also, do i need to check out my own branch to make any new edits/chang=
es?<br>
&gt; Or use &#39;master&#39; branch?<br>
<br>
</span>Whichever you prefer; that command line was for read-only clone,<br>
you are not to push it anywhere.<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
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Hello;

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 06:53:54PM +0530, kukkadapu sushma wrote:
> 
> But in my case, to record a contribution under Outreachy project#3 -
> Self-defense guide update, I need to make at least one contribution - As
> the outreachy website allows '"Record contribution and then apply for org"'
> process.
> 
> So, any help in regarding this issue?

I'm afraid I'm out of context here; ask campaigns@fsf.org.


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Hey

I am Aakanksha Reddy and a Computer Science Student in Junior Year.I am =
interested in the project on the Email Self Defence Guide.I am confident =
in my skills in web development, translation and Git and will be =
comfortable in carrying out the required tasks.Here are my musings on =
this project-

1. I wish to translate the ESD Guide into Hindi-which is the 4th most =
spoken language in the world.Additionally I can make updates into the =
german guide if needed.

2.I think that the ESD guide should be more accessible to people with no =
to blind vision and it would be nice to have a sort of text to speech =
translated audio guides.

3.Lack of awareness is a primary cause of people not adopting the =
security features and the following things would work nicely so as to =
achieve this - flyers , video tutorials , workshop resources and =
workshop course of action.

Could I get a feedback on the above points and how should I go about =
making a contribution to the above project.What are you looking for in a =
first contribution - a sample translation , a review of the existing =
guide or anything else?




Regards

Aakanksha Reddy

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Hey,

I am Shradha khapra from India and I am a junior year Computer
Engineering student.I am fluent in HTML, CSS (along with Bootstrap and
Materialize)  and have worked extensively with JS, Node and git. I would
love to work on the 'e-mail self defense project' and I intend to
contribute in following ways:

i) I intend to translate the the website into Hindi as it is the most
spoken language in India and I believe it would increase the reach of
the concept of encryption to a large number of people. I have already
translated the introduction section and would appreciate some help with
introducing translations on the repository and submit my contribution
for my Outreachy application.

ii) I intend to make changes in the the CSS of the website,especially in
the fonts and the responsiveness according to various screen sizes . i
also wish to work on the layout of the site.

iii) I intend to make the subject matter more accessible to people via
pdfs, text-to-speech modes,vidoes that take people through this process
of encryption and decryption etc.

iv) I would also like to add some details in the textual matter of
English as well as Hindi as I believe more detailing could be provided
to users as I experienced this need when I attempted to send an
encrypted e-mail to the mentor of the project.

I look forward to contributing in the project and go through a healthy
and friendly process of mutual learning.

Regards

Shradha




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hello
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Ahh,if so,i.will.be glad to translate to french...
How should i proceed??

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Le 19/03/2018 20:05, Jessica Tcheyanou a =C3=A9crit :
> Ahh,if so,i.will.be <http://i.will.be> glad to translate to french...
> How should i proceed??
>=20

Hello Jessica,

Many thanks for your offer, but the French translation of Email
Self-Defense already exists:
https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/fr/

There is room for improvement, tho, in spite of extensive proofreading.
You are welcome to check for typos, bad grammar, translation errors and
the like, and propose changes.
If you wish, you can join the French translation team:
https://listes.april.org/wws/info/trad-gnu

Bien cordialement,
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Hey
This is Shradha. I already sent an introduction e-mail and I wanted to
emquire that I have already began the translation of the guide in Hindi and
I am done with the introduction section but I still haven't got any reply
regarding the access rights to the static repository on gitlab.
Could anyone please help me out?
Regards
Shradha

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This is Shradha. I already sent an introduction e-mail and I wanted to emqu=
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Hello Outreachy applicants,

Thanks for your interest in Email Self-Defense.

Most people on this mailing list don't know the details of the Outreachy
project; we are just volunteer translators. The responsible person is
Molly de Blanc. According to the Outreachy website, she is supposed to
select applicants on small contributions they make to the ESD project.
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Hi,

I've modified the infographics to a booklet format, so that it is easy
to print on an A4 double-side and fold to a booklet format for easy
distribution in a physical form:

https://github.com/tomichec/esd-booklet/raw/master/esd-all.pdf

The source can be obtained from github:

https://github.com/tomichec/esd-booklet

Cheers,

Tomas

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Le 20/03/2018 11:57, Tomas Stary a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi,
>=20
> I've modified the infographics to a booklet format, so that it is easy
> to print on an A4 double-side and fold to a booklet format for easy
> distribution in a physical form:
>=20
> https://github.com/tomichec/esd-booklet/raw/master/esd-all.pdf
>=20
> The source can be obtained from github:
>=20
> https://github.com/tomichec/esd-booklet
>=20
> Cheers,
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> Tomas

Hi Tomas,

That's really clever, thanks! Very convenient for install parties, maybe
also for the Libre Sofware Meeting next July. By the way, Strasbourg
isn't very far for most Europeans... ;)

Best,
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Hi Everyone

I recently attempted translating the Email Self Defence Guide to =
Hindi.Here is all the little work I have done till now.To those working =
on the same project - can we collaborate and divide the sections so that =
we can get through this faster.


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Hello again Outreachy applicants,

I just realized that LibrePlanet 2018 is March 24-25. FSF staff,
including Molly, must be awfully busy this week! They will probably be
putting things back in place on Monday, so don't expect much on the
Outreachy front before next Tuesday. In the meantime, don't hesitate to
post your contributions here, preferably in gzipped simple text format
(.txt.gz) or other non-proprietary format.  :)

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Hey

Here are the text files of the translations I sent earlier.

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Hey everyone,
I have translated the introduction of the guide to Hindi . I would
appreciate all inputs regarding it. I am attaching the same to this e-mail.
It's a .odt file as I work on LibreOffice Writer.

Also, I and Aakanksha Reddy have decided to collaborate in the process of
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Hindi speaker would like to join us.

Regards
Shradha

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Hi,

I've just came across the FSFE does have a promotional leaflet on the
esd [1]. I wonder how the translation on that leaflet is organised, as I
didn't see it in our repo for esd. Also, they don't have as many
languages as the main esd guide does.

Tomas

[1]
http://download.fsfe.org/advocacy/promomaterial/Email-self-defense/gnupg-leaflet.en.pdf



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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:45:44PM +0100, Tomas Stary wrote:
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> I've just came across the FSFE does have a promotional leaflet on the
> esd [1]. I wonder how the translation on that leaflet is organised, as I
> didn't see it in our repo for esd.

It's maintained by the FSFE,
https://fsfe.org/contribute/translators/translators.en.html

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Good afternoon,

my name is Kate. I want to participate in Outreachy. I've already
contacted Molly de Blanc and made a small patch (attached).

I made my proposal here:
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Yours truly,
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2018-03-21 22:15 GMT+01:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
> Good afternoon,
>
> my name is Kate. I want to participate in Outreachy. I've already
> contacted Molly de Blanc and made a small patch (attached).
>
> I made my proposal here:
> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-to-outreachy-project-updating-the-email-self-defense-guide-9079a04e774
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> Yours truly,
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2018-03-21 23:02 GMT+01:00 Tomas Stary <tomichec@gmail.com>:
> Hey Kate,
>
> great idea to contribute to the translation and infographics. I've seen
> similar changes you suggest in the FSFE guide [1]. On the other hand, I
> quite like the envelopes and boxes, as it is what GnuPG holds in hers
> hands on the infographics :)

The problem with envelopes is perceptual. They are just containers for
information (not the information itself), so the fact of investigation
of containers by agencies doesn't provide the right emotional feedback
to a user. Thus, users don't feel themselves involved into the
situation on the picture. And my proposition is mainly to show that
agencies don't only investigate envelopes but also get access to the
information. And the type of information should be common in
information exchange of a user. For example, we can show that a
journalist sends some photos and next moment we can see these photos
on monitors of a special agency. Other examples are x-ray images and
"intimate" photos. Several examples are needed to show that
surveillance is a massive phenomenon.

>
> Also I have made some changes to the infographics myself, to make it to
> the booklet form and you can find it with source files at [2]. A
> translation to Russian or Ukranian (or other languages) would be really
> welcomed.

Could you tell me where is the text? Is it available in some tex file?
I think that the infographics can be made as a latex file with text
available in tex files and with translation done using, for example,
po4a-translate.
I want to note that probably it can be done by placing images into the
document created by latex instead of placing text into the prepared
pictures - that would increase flexibility (e.g. for translations).

>
> Btw. we are going to organise a workshop here in Prague. If you have a
> chance to travel and help us, that would be nice too.

I think I won't have a chance to do it in the near future. But could
you give me more information about this workshop?

>

I will also try to provide some form of sketches for the future infographics.

> All the best,
>
> Tomas
>
> [1]
> http://download.fsfe.org/advocacy/promomaterial/Email-self-defense/gnupg-leaflet.en.pdf
>
> [2] https://github.com/tomichec/esd-booklet
>
> On 03/21/2018 10:15 PM, Kateryna Razumova wrote:
>> Good afternoon,
>>
>> my name is Kate. I want to participate in Outreachy. I've already
>> contacted Molly de Blanc and made a small patch (attached).
>>
>> I made my proposal here:
>> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-to-outreachy-project-updating-the-email-self-defense-guide-9079a04e774
>>
>>
>> Yours truly,
>> Kateryna Razumova.
>>
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 10:20:44 +0100
Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com> wrote:

> Other examples are x-ray images and
> "intimate" photos. Several examples are needed to show that
> surveillance is a massive phenomenon.

That=E2=80=99s out of scope in a "email self-defense" campaign.
Besides, FSF deals with software, not with all privacy
areas of the everyday life, such as surveillance through
cameras, X-Ray images in airports, etc.

Regards,
Besnik
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Hey, see comments below.


On 03/22/2018 10:20 AM, Kateryna Razumova wrote:
> 2018-03-21 23:02 GMT+01:00 Tomas Stary <tomichec@gmail.com>:
>> Hey Kate,
>>
>> great idea to contribute to the translation and infographics. I've see=
n
>> similar changes you suggest in the FSFE guide [1]. On the other hand, =
I
>> quite like the envelopes and boxes, as it is what GnuPG holds in hers
>> hands on the infographics :)
> The problem with envelopes is perceptual. They are just containers for
> information (not the information itself), so the fact of investigation
> of containers by agencies doesn't provide the right emotional feedback
> to a user. Thus, users don't feel themselves involved into the
> situation on the picture. And my proposition is mainly to show that
> agencies don't only investigate envelopes but also get access to the
> information. And the type of information should be common in
> information exchange of a user. For example, we can show that a
> journalist sends some photos and next moment we can see these photos
> on monitors of a special agency. Other examples are x-ray images and
> "intimate" photos. Several examples are needed to show that
> surveillance is a massive phenomenon.

That's true, email is more like a postcard, than a letter in an
envelope. But it's worse, since unlike postcards, the emails are easy to
copy and store automatically on the spies' servers to be analysed by
computer.

>> Also I have made some changes to the infographics myself, to make it t=
o
>> the booklet form and you can find it with source files at [2]. A
>> translation to Russian or Ukranian (or other languages) would be reall=
y
>> welcomed.
> Could you tell me where is the text? Is it available in some tex file?
> I think that the infographics can be made as a latex file with text
> available in tex files and with translation done using, for example,
> po4a-translate.
> I want to note that probably it can be done by placing images into the
> document created by latex instead of placing text into the prepared
> pictures - that would increase flexibility (e.g. for translations).

The text is in the svg files that can be easily modified by inkscape.
I've noticed that manual tinkering with the text frames is required in
order for the text to flow nicely, which would probably be also the case
with the frames in the tex document. But if you would like to take the
effort to change it into latex, why not...

The text is identical with the original version of the infographic. I
think the po4a-translate should work on that.

>> Btw. we are going to organise a workshop here in Prague. If you have a=

>> chance to travel and help us, that would be nice too.
> I think I won't have a chance to do it in the near future. But could
> you give me more information about this workshop?
It's going to be organised in the local hackerspace following the esd
workshop guide [1]. It would be great to create slides for that
occasion, that could be recycled for similar workshops in other places.
I think that the slides should include some motivation why the
encryption is important (possibly with stories, sources and reference to
NSA leaks), then guide with settings of enigmail, description on how to
do key-signing and setting of the trust and revocation certificate
backup. Would contributing to the slides be something that interests you
as well?

[1] https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/workshops.html
> I will also try to provide some form of sketches for the future infogra=
phics.
>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Tomas
>>
>> [1]
>> http://download.fsfe.org/advocacy/promomaterial/Email-self-defense/gnu=
pg-leaflet.en.pdf
>>
>> [2] https://github.com/tomichec/esd-booklet
>>
>> On 03/21/2018 10:15 PM, Kateryna Razumova wrote:
>>> Good afternoon,
>>>
>>> my name is Kate. I want to participate in Outreachy. I've already
>>> contacted Molly de Blanc and made a small patch (attached).
>>>
>>> I made my proposal here:
>>> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-to-outreachy-project-=
updating-the-email-self-defense-guide-9079a04e774
>>>
>>>
>>> Yours truly,
>>> Kateryna Razumova.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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I made a rough sketch which illustrates some of my ideas about the
infographics.
https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-sketches-for-new-infographics-esd-guide-8287c12a61c5

Since I intent to make video tutorials and translations during the
Outreachy, could you please tell me, how I can contribute?

Yours truly,
Kateryna Razumova.


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2018-03-23 10:39 GMT+01:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
> I made a rough sketch which illustrates some of my ideas about the
> infographics.
> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-sketches-for-new-infographics-esd-guide-8287c12a61c5
>
> Since I intent to make video tutorials and translations during the
> Outreachy, could you please tell me, how I can contribute?
>
> Yours truly,
> Kateryna Razumova.
Hello,

I have created a xetex version of the first page of infographics. It
would allow to simplify print version preparing and translation.
https://github.com/KateRazumova/esd_guide

Also, I have updated my post on medium with a small (sketchy) gif:
https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-sketches-for-new-infographics-esd-guide-8287c12a61c5

and tried to obtain some suggestions on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/freesoftware/comments/86vifc/my_freesoftware_outreachy_proposal_improving_esd/


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2018-03-24 21:05 GMT+01:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
> 2018-03-23 10:39 GMT+01:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
>> I made a rough sketch which illustrates some of my ideas about the
>> infographics.
>> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-sketches-for-new-infographics-esd-guide-8287c12a61c5
>>
>> Since I intent to make video tutorials and translations during the
>> Outreachy, could you please tell me, how I can contribute?
>>
>> Yours truly,
>> Kateryna Razumova.
> Hello,
>
> I have created a xetex version of the first page of infographics. It
> would allow to simplify print version preparing and translation.
> https://github.com/KateRazumova/esd_guide
>
> Also, I have updated my post on medium with a small (sketchy) gif:
> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-sketches-for-new-infographics-esd-guide-8287c12a61c5
>
> and tried to obtain some suggestions on reddit:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/freesoftware/comments/86vifc/my_freesoftware_outreachy_proposal_improving_esd/

Hello,

I've made a small survey, here is its results:
https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-small-survey-on-esd-guide-infographics-usability-bdb7af8d4cca

Yours truly,
Kateryna Razumova.


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Hello,

I plan to translate the email defense guide to Urdu Language [Currently
translation not available ]. And I have already translated the introduction
part. I also plan to make a step by step video tutorial to configure
enigmail for email encryption and have started working on this too. I will
appreciate any inputs/ suggestions from you.

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 Hello,

For recording my contributions to outreach project I am attaching my
translated text in zipped folder with this email. It includes the actual
html code and the rendered page image.

I have already configured Enigmail to Thunderbird and emailed my public key
to Ms. Molly.

I plan to make the following contributions during the internship.

1) Translation of entire Email Self Defense Guide to Urdu Language.
2) Improvement of Content in English Language.
3) Enhancing the website design.
4) Introducing new infographics.

Looking forward to your feedback and response.

Reagrds,
Mahum

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gb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size=
:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:n=
ormal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0p=
x;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:=
rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initia=
l;float:none;display:inline">I plan to make the following contributions dur=
ing the internship.=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-famil=
y:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligature=
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t-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-s=
pacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;=
text-decoration-color:initial"><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family=
:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures=
:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text=
-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-sp=
acing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;t=
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y:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligature=
s:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;tex=
t-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-s=
pacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;=
text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">1) Translation of =
entire Email Self Defense Guide to Urdu Language.=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"=
color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight=
:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:=
none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);=
text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weigh=
t:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform=
:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)=
;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;dis=
play:inline">2) Improvement of Content in English Language.</span><br style=
=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-=
style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-we=
ight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transf=
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55);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font=
-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-w=
eight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-trans=
form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,=
255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none=
;display:inline">3) Enhancing the website design.</span><br style=3D"color:=
rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:norm=
al;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;l=
etter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w=
hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-d=
ecoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:nor=
mal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;=
letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:i=
nline">4) Introducing new infographics.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,=
34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-va=
riant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spac=
ing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space=
:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-=
style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,3=
4);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-var=
iant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:=
normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-s=
tyle:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,=
34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-va=
riant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spac=
ing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space=
:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-=
style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Look=
ing forward to your feedback and response.=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"color:r=
gb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:norma=
l;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;le=
tter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;wh=
ite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-de=
coration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br style=3D"color:rg=
b(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal=
;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;let=
ter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whi=
te-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-dec=
oration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:r=
gb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:norma=
l;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;le=
tter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;wh=
ite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-de=
coration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inl=
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s-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;fo=
nt-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:sta=
rt;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;=
background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decora=
tion-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Mahum=C2=A0</span>

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I would appreciate your feedback on it. Also since the github repo is
read-only, how do I push my contribution for outreachy application
submission?


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I think, we should wait a little. All the mentors are probably busy
with LibrePlanet.
Yours truly,
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Hello,

I discovered some inappropriacies in ESD Guide:
https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-need-of-an-update-of-esd-guide-instructions-1d6bda95477f

I have also updated my proposal to make it more clear:
https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-to-outreachy-project-updating-the-email-self-defense-guide-9079a04e774

Yours truly,
Kateryna Razumova.


2018-03-27 1:10 GMT+02:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
> 2018-03-24 21:05 GMT+01:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
>> 2018-03-23 10:39 GMT+01:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
>>> I made a rough sketch which illustrates some of my ideas about the
>>> infographics.
>>> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-sketches-for-new-infographics-esd-guide-8287c12a61c5
>>>
>>> Since I intent to make video tutorials and translations during the
>>> Outreachy, could you please tell me, how I can contribute?
>>>
>>> Yours truly,
>>> Kateryna Razumova.
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have created a xetex version of the first page of infographics. It
>> would allow to simplify print version preparing and translation.
>> https://github.com/KateRazumova/esd_guide
>>
>> Also, I have updated my post on medium with a small (sketchy) gif:
>> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-sketches-for-new-infographics-esd-guide-8287c12a61c5
>>
>> and tried to obtain some suggestions on reddit:
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/freesoftware/comments/86vifc/my_freesoftware_outreachy_proposal_improving_esd/
>
> Hello,
>
> I've made a small survey, here is its results:
> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-small-survey-on-esd-guide-infographics-usability-bdb7af8d4cca
>
> Yours truly,
> Kateryna Razumova.


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In this email I want to summarize my contribution for "Updating the
Email Self-Defense Guide" Outreachy project.

First of all, I made a patch changing the text of a web page (attached).
Secondly, I created a xetex printable version of the first page of the
infographics: https://github.com/KateRazumova/esd_guide
After that I made several posts reasoning what should I do (from my
point of view):
https://medium.com/p/proposal-for-outreachy-project-sketches-for-new-infographics-esd-guide-8287c12a61c5
https://medium.com/p/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-small-survey-on-esd-guide-infographics-usability-bdb7af8d4cca
https://medium.com/p/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-need-of-an-update-of-esd-guide-instructions-1d6bda95477f

And finally, I made a proposal for my Outreachy project:
https://medium.com/p/proposal-to-outreachy-project-updating-the-email-self-defense-guide-9079a04e774
Yours truly,
Kateryna Razumova.


2018-03-29 13:03 GMT+02:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I discovered some inappropriacies in ESD Guide:
> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-need-of-an-update-of-esd-guide-instructions-1d6bda95477f
>
> I have also updated my proposal to make it more clear:
> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-to-outreachy-project-updating-the-email-self-defense-guide-9079a04e774
>
> Yours truly,
> Kateryna Razumova.
>
>
> 2018-03-27 1:10 GMT+02:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
>> 2018-03-24 21:05 GMT+01:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
>>> 2018-03-23 10:39 GMT+01:00 Kateryna Razumova <ekateryna.razumova@gmail.com>:
>>>> I made a rough sketch which illustrates some of my ideas about the
>>>> infographics.
>>>> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-sketches-for-new-infographics-esd-guide-8287c12a61c5
>>>>
>>>> Since I intent to make video tutorials and translations during the
>>>> Outreachy, could you please tell me, how I can contribute?
>>>>
>>>> Yours truly,
>>>> Kateryna Razumova.
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have created a xetex version of the first page of infographics. It
>>> would allow to simplify print version preparing and translation.
>>> https://github.com/KateRazumova/esd_guide
>>>
>>> Also, I have updated my post on medium with a small (sketchy) gif:
>>> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-sketches-for-new-infographics-esd-guide-8287c12a61c5
>>>
>>> and tried to obtain some suggestions on reddit:
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/freesoftware/comments/86vifc/my_freesoftware_outreachy_proposal_improving_esd/
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've made a small survey, here is its results:
>> https://medium.com/@ekateryna.razumova/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-small-survey-on-esd-guide-infographics-usability-bdb7af8d4cca
>>
>> Yours truly,
>> Kateryna Razumova.

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Hello Tomas,

sorry for not responding for quite a long time - I was busy with
contributing (annoying all people in the mail list) to Outreachy
project.

So, I have read about the workshop. What about the slides? Are there
any already available slides?

Also, I found out that some instructions in the guide are not applicable:
https://medium.com/p/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-need-of-an-update-of-esd-guide-instructions-1d6bda95477f

I also don't understand the policy of signing messages here. I never
used signing for mailing lists but we are in a mailing list about
email self defense so I don't understand whether I should use signing.


Yours truly,
Kateryna Razumova.


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Hi Kate,

Thanks for your efforts. I have been keenly following your emails and
suggestions for improvements. Although I haven't had time to reply
myself yet, it is nice, that there is some progress going on.

The preparations for the workshop is continuing. I have met with some
people and we secured a place for the workshop. So now it remains to
invite the people who are interesting in encryption and spreading the
word. We plan to contact journalists, which is even more important in
the light of current events, when Italian mafia with a link to the
government killed a journalist in Slovakia in order to threaten others.

I am not aware of any slides made for that purpose at all. In theory we
could just put the websites on a projector screen and go along with
that, but it might be more professional to do libreoffice or latex
(beamer) slides with the manual + some more relevant information (e.g.
why the encryption matter, what do other organisations say about
encryption, generating password using the diceware method). Do you have
any other suggestions what should the slide include? What format would
you use?

Regarding the signatures, I normally sign messages only when I want to
make sure that nobody tampered with the content during the transmission
-- e.g. when sending account numbers which somebody could change for
theirs, or when sending piece of code, that could be replaced with some
harmful bits. But there shouldn't be any problem if you just sign
everything.

I also wonder, how thoroughly should we check the identity when signing
the keys of others. Is the check of the ID really necessary? The reason
why I think of that is that some people might use pseudonym rather than
their official name. Also, there might be more people with the same
official name and then some of them might create certificate to
impersonate one another (for the email address they don't own). I think
the alternative could be to verify if they have an access to the email
address they claim the certificate for.

All the best,

Tomas


On 03/30/2018 11:52 AM, Kateryna Razumova wrote:
> Hello Tomas,
>
> sorry for not responding for quite a long time - I was busy with
> contributing (annoying all people in the mail list) to Outreachy
> project.
>
> So, I have read about the workshop. What about the slides? Are there
> any already available slides?
>
> Also, I found out that some instructions in the guide are not applicabl=
e:
> https://medium.com/p/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-need-of-an-update=
-of-esd-guide-instructions-1d6bda95477f
>
> I also don't understand the policy of signing messages here. I never
> used signing for mailing lists but we are in a mailing list about
> email self defense so I don't understand whether I should use signing.
>
>
> Yours truly,
> Kateryna Razumova.




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When will the workshop take a place?

Yours truly,
Kateryna Razumova.


2018-03-30 12:23 GMT+02:00 Tomas Stary <tomichec@gmail.com>:
> Hi Kate,
>
> Thanks for your efforts. I have been keenly following your emails and
> suggestions for improvements. Although I haven't had time to reply
> myself yet, it is nice, that there is some progress going on.
>
> The preparations for the workshop is continuing. I have met with some
> people and we secured a place for the workshop. So now it remains to
> invite the people who are interesting in encryption and spreading the
> word. We plan to contact journalists, which is even more important in
> the light of current events, when Italian mafia with a link to the
> government killed a journalist in Slovakia in order to threaten others.
>
> I am not aware of any slides made for that purpose at all. In theory we
> could just put the websites on a projector screen and go along with
> that, but it might be more professional to do libreoffice or latex
> (beamer) slides with the manual + some more relevant information (e.g.
> why the encryption matter, what do other organisations say about
> encryption, generating password using the diceware method). Do you have
> any other suggestions what should the slide include? What format would
> you use?
>
> Regarding the signatures, I normally sign messages only when I want to
> make sure that nobody tampered with the content during the transmission
> -- e.g. when sending account numbers which somebody could change for
> theirs, or when sending piece of code, that could be replaced with some
> harmful bits. But there shouldn't be any problem if you just sign
> everything.
>
> I also wonder, how thoroughly should we check the identity when signing
> the keys of others. Is the check of the ID really necessary? The reason
> why I think of that is that some people might use pseudonym rather than
> their official name. Also, there might be more people with the same
> official name and then some of them might create certificate to
> impersonate one another (for the email address they don't own). I think
> the alternative could be to verify if they have an access to the email
> address they claim the certificate for.
>
> All the best,
>
> Tomas
>
>
> On 03/30/2018 11:52 AM, Kateryna Razumova wrote:
>> Hello Tomas,
>>
>> sorry for not responding for quite a long time - I was busy with
>> contributing (annoying all people in the mail list) to Outreachy
>> project.
>>
>> So, I have read about the workshop. What about the slides? Are there
>> any already available slides?
>>
>> Also, I found out that some instructions in the guide are not applicable:
>> https://medium.com/p/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-need-of-an-update-of-esd-guide-instructions-1d6bda95477f
>>
>> I also don't understand the policy of signing messages here. I never
>> used signing for mailing lists but we are in a mailing list about
>> email self defense so I don't understand whether I should use signing.
>>
>>
>> Yours truly,
>> Kateryna Razumova.
>
>


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The date is not really set yet. I think it should be possible to have
the first run sometime in the second half of April or first half of May.

T.


On 03/30/2018 12:54 PM, Kateryna Razumova wrote:
> When will the workshop take a place?
>
> Yours truly,
> Kateryna Razumova.
>
>
> 2018-03-30 12:23 GMT+02:00 Tomas Stary <tomichec@gmail.com>:
>> Hi Kate,
>>
>> Thanks for your efforts. I have been keenly following your emails and
>> suggestions for improvements. Although I haven't had time to reply
>> myself yet, it is nice, that there is some progress going on.
>>
>> The preparations for the workshop is continuing. I have met with some
>> people and we secured a place for the workshop. So now it remains to
>> invite the people who are interesting in encryption and spreading the
>> word. We plan to contact journalists, which is even more important in
>> the light of current events, when Italian mafia with a link to the
>> government killed a journalist in Slovakia in order to threaten others.
>>
>> I am not aware of any slides made for that purpose at all. In theory we
>> could just put the websites on a projector screen and go along with
>> that, but it might be more professional to do libreoffice or latex
>> (beamer) slides with the manual + some more relevant information (e.g.
>> why the encryption matter, what do other organisations say about
>> encryption, generating password using the diceware method). Do you have
>> any other suggestions what should the slide include? What format would
>> you use?
>>
>> Regarding the signatures, I normally sign messages only when I want to
>> make sure that nobody tampered with the content during the transmission
>> -- e.g. when sending account numbers which somebody could change for
>> theirs, or when sending piece of code, that could be replaced with some
>> harmful bits. But there shouldn't be any problem if you just sign
>> everything.
>>
>> I also wonder, how thoroughly should we check the identity when signing
>> the keys of others. Is the check of the ID really necessary? The reason
>> why I think of that is that some people might use pseudonym rather than
>> their official name. Also, there might be more people with the same
>> official name and then some of them might create certificate to
>> impersonate one another (for the email address they don't own). I think
>> the alternative could be to verify if they have an access to the email
>> address they claim the certificate for.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Tomas
>>
>>
>> On 03/30/2018 11:52 AM, Kateryna Razumova wrote:
>>> Hello Tomas,
>>>
>>> sorry for not responding for quite a long time - I was busy with
>>> contributing (annoying all people in the mail list) to Outreachy
>>> project.
>>>
>>> So, I have read about the workshop. What about the slides? Are there
>>> any already available slides?
>>>
>>> Also, I found out that some instructions in the guide are not applicable:
>>> https://medium.com/p/proposal-for-outreachy-project-a-need-of-an-update-of-esd-guide-instructions-1d6bda95477f
>>>
>>> I also don't understand the policy of signing messages here. I never
>>> used signing for mailing lists but we are in a mailing list about
>>> email self defense so I don't understand whether I should use signing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yours truly,
>>> Kateryna Razumova.
>>



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Hi, Tomas;

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:23:32PM +0200, Tomas Stary wrote:
>
> I also wonder, how thoroughly should we check the identity when signing
> the keys of others. Is the check of the ID really necessary?

Debian guidelines say it isn't exactly necessary, what's necessary
is t make sure that the person has given identity. you aren't likely
to need any ID to sign the key of your uncle, but when you meet
a person for the first (and probably the last) time, the most
obvious way is checking their IDs.

Still it isn't a trivial question why a confirmation of person's
name is wanted at all.

> The reason
> why I think of that is that some people might use pseudonym rather than
> their official name.

The methods for checking pseudonyms are not so established
as for checking IDs, so it is going to be harder to have people
sign your pseudonyms (note that your certificate may have multiple
names, and my experience shows that many people check one name and
then sign _all_ user IDs).

> Also, there might be more people with the same
> official name and then some of them might create certificate to
> impersonate one another (for the email address they don't own).

By the way, a user ID may have no email address. perhaps you can
distinguish different homonyms using the fingerprints of their
certificates.

> I think
> the alternative could be to verify if they have an access to the email
> address they claim the certificate for.

Checking email control is a mandatory step in many workflows.
you just send the signed key in an encrypted message to that
email address, so basically they can't use your signature on their
key unless they control that address. if there are multiple addresses,
it's more complicated: you sign them one by one, each time sending
to the respective email address and removing and re-importing
the original (unsigned) key in your keyring in order to get
a separately signed certificate for every email address.

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