From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Dec 16 23:19:21 2017 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1eQQQ5-0000em-82 for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 23:19:21 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([208.118.235.13]:55287) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQQPz-0000ef-Eq for esd-translators@fsf.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 23:19:19 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA, FREEMAIL_FROM, INVALID_MSGID, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from smtpbg302.qq.com ([184.105.206.27]:39712) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1eQQPz-0001Gu-0K for esd-translators@fsf.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 23:19:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=foxmail.com; s=s201512; t=1513484349; bh=WnnIgZkGIvQNVrdijbwOSTwiFRkJey5eD7cK62rgELg=; h=From:Subject:To:Cc:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MnVI8c/uNW92yh46txxHBR4EhHpmUUfy+/HUalXh8cDOu1htJOtGJAIlsnJg7QRHx 4uKoHmtmz8LZ7pAMiJVtCWkwwjnSPxIGsicllwlrXwDhq8BIITzd7hrtIMIjMP+2wu XLpoueG+N67PRK0EqzT5iSs+F75YJYZqEi39hKag= X-QQ-mid: esmtp32t1513484343tzevucyl7 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [58.100.58.181]) by esmtp4.qq.com (ESMTP) with id ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 12:19:03 +0800 (CST) X-QQ-SSF: 0100000000000080FG100F00000000U X-QQ-FEAT: 1VIX1l+IGY9rnfy6UD56nqscU4XVWCaX5PODtDsoFMC/PT41dzZ/7CSKGTxks x9SoJZbv/6LsZp5g2tox2Jsj3+FJXzov81yZVOq2GoC5/Bf/K1xzXhfEbMPIGCa9hP3fVxt RMDq30wULws9uLnzlPCdV9tCjD+F+vB+bS3k89uoN+9T3sfpkEOiHlzzzGUkDQE16M0EWZt 9oavDkFmEcvRCVEWsx5wunnUlthjTnESB4ebHGkUDcdnNFFAeCx5hqEZjSCdlcbhsnjHVEB CZmA== X-QQ-GoodBg: 0 From: Tom To: esd-translators@fsf.org Message-ID: <9b87d184-f363-6677-5602-ca89520336c4@foxmail.com>+8905A2AA65FF1BC7 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 12:19:03 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OR4F5uih99kXn2CW6BqEtKdj33778Mc74" X-QQ-SENDSIZE: 520 X-QQ-FName: 9A6730AA5CC644E8B3EB81D2D9818A1D X-QQ-LocalIP: 10.208.130.95 X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x [fuzzy] Subject: [ESD-translators] unavailable link X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 04:19:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --OR4F5uih99kXn2CW6BqEtKdj33778Mc74 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="eqQ26aR8w4hk7oQMEccmmEFfn6kxs2Pqo"; protected-headers="v1" From: Tom To: esd-translators@fsf.org Cc: Ineiev Message-ID: <9b87d184-f363-6677-5602-ca89520336c4@foxmail.com> Subject: unavailable link --eqQ26aR8w4hk7oQMEccmmEFfn6kxs2Pqo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found the link of http://microca.st/fsf in next_step.html is unavailable now. It will show a page to sell the domain. It seem microca.st not belong to its owner now. Should this link be removed? Tom --eqQ26aR8w4hk7oQMEccmmEFfn6kxs2Pqo-- --OR4F5uih99kXn2CW6BqEtKdj33778Mc74 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEtACu2gZLScdBVu6YWiHziHpYntwFAlo18DcACgkQWiHziHpY ntzYRQ//SJl9bfAryXE+LgQwEMXvJ9vhikSMTclEMChCdwRLb4tfFQqfytYtISB2 Vo+S7JTLUEu3LfM+yrRaa5dF2dfbX4/7GRSjDfJRPM/f98ymPSxF2samjk1/Mf8N XJKPxANZaPYAvxaE9T2XwANTQFSJHgYw2qq85IdXOCI3HVEHsBqxP/OX6V55GqmB BGs1vRFk03BAPXtJv3yFaOK9WfuDd0t9L1JTUSHQgsXOI9vuQSK+LkdwMWBeGi/s 5rwGrpm8eVzNFOTHp6B9iegpivUNCtk+gwpbWOlNtm+ehwKRUtuiIlDMxSFWgptV 93W2TJnj8giCd3g5BmiBuJmKfn9xOsa7Q0+ExJzbxbkqH8zgqj2tLV0P++9POvlX 0NnlT8+lQ55BwvWKvw08ejURV8WlDo8LMr8aUcn49yV5KgCg0iSTIsznkCowaeVC GOXUGWI2lx9K41hh0mBNAgFuRyRsdJT478c56/hqAYY6jBHBTlGPnlMeG4DVTB0Y nNArtMoj4bN6dpbKvR6XOZbS21ygrH1VDk8H4mi2UBEFZYFkVi5nArfEsAFvyMHJ qmLVVpeTJ9SAq2skIhJnX7di0vb4MERmVFSs0f+vD3qKk7Wa6g87AFeH4GVQ8+Vt u+cJxIVpcdTsyv7pjPrZ+P/sG3QrCYdboDt3Vwo1N8WcBqVIBz8= =xMWb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OR4F5uih99kXn2CW6BqEtKdj33778Mc74-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Dec 17 06:18:54 2017 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1eQWy6-0004sz-B7 for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 06:18:54 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([208.118.235.13]:39523) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQWy0-0004ss-Ui for esd-translators@fsf.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 06:18:52 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.6]:47892) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1eQWy0-0000Hj-Lx for esd-translators@fsf.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 06:18:48 -0500 Received: from tymigou.hd.free.fr (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8b11:e020:7540:4de8:a521:5708]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0779C7803A1 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:18:44 +0000 (UTC) To: esd-translators@fsf.org References: <9b87d184-f363-6677-5602-ca89520336c4@foxmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?VGjDqXLDqHNlIEdvZGVmcm95?= X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5A365294.10504@free.fr> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 12:18:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9b87d184-f363-6677-5602-ca89520336c4@foxmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: Windows NT kernel [generic] [fuzzy] Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] unavailable link X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:18:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tom, Le 17/12/2017 05:19, Tom a =C3=A9crit : > I found the link of http://microca.st/fsf in next_step.html is=20 > unavailable now. It will show a page to sell the domain. It seem=20 > microca.st not belong to its owner now. >=20 > Should this link be removed? >=20 > Tom >=20 It seems that pump.io has its own site: http://pump.io But that doesn't help if you simply want to subscribe. Maybe this one would be more helpful: https://github.com/pump-io/pump.io/wiki/User-Guide Best, Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJaNlKUAAoJEN8zjwg4B5HvDFcIALFrG8mUL6DqW7tkHrCbta3p RcncW11hTH45rB34k6Ix8INcsO3dRNXBp5/h7U+gHx96CyWBeEsJE4aDpnU/yBAT sEWOnFBAkNomahBR2QgSJMi15/VdyYQ0nnf4IDTufvnGj6QGg97Kz8nJyQS/VGp4 gBHk+r5JTpP1vsbUYfiQOMpVKY9581fVL2Lkjdgz8wERzI6Lot4oz/ciInbkLp/P 2WU2qJQW6iox4NpMeOxYr02KbyyrfQeGr7/QjCXiDnvhbhfh5eR/7QDYcWwOFrKa FjtEXZonpruqVsN6yz7Ok6m2jvSav/otAKlD0HxC1vVwB6vVqgU6HH2KPTd8MEw=3D =3DQSvA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Dec 17 09:43:02 2017 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1eQa9e-0002gc-7L for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 09:43:02 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([208.118.235.13]:47364) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQa9Z-0002gV-3D for esd-translators@fsf.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 09:43:00 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:38069) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1eQa9Y-0006jt-Ji for esd-translators@fsf.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 09:42:56 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F284B20DCC for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 15:42:51 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1513521772; bh=kYZcL8J8VvlZRIO8ReTk87U8jJl9c87YVPGmAfnQt8s=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=iK/sYd4kwFfgIAMTpKdoY46R4jX71irhrx+JicMA/e+iNvXFJd5+I+laADWysyY5o nagfWjRcC7ahkHFASUP/XZomB7aWPvkgX6AP6iBeEeQ6qth8vb5TOU1yXI0CJdRFB6 YgKkgkI/4GONuKVwhuAvgexKa3aPqe2Vj/kxQCj9qJatM/36W85QJaTtnzV3/3azx7 Uy9sfW24h//IrF2CvLY0dqk6c81rtAkLVYpAFIWo+AydfgXIXfQUVk3nXzAQuaJaZW 1YNyeoEZIE7OXAqfI6dnGpmAESkA68SSIuOpiOeKvm9JBXgl44J5yi1kuPz3xJydK9 OMZZEOBRGUW2A== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3z06Mt6PDcz9rxV; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 15:42:50 +0100 (CET) From: Tomas Nordin To: =?utf-8?B?VGjDqXLDqHNl?= Godefroy , esd-translators@fsf.org In-Reply-To: <5A365294.10504@free.fr> References: <9b87d184-f363-6677-5602-ca89520336c4@foxmail.com> <5A365294.10504@free.fr> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 15:42:50 +0100 Message-ID: <87zi6hxvo5.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] unavailable link X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 14:43:00 -0000 Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se Godefroy writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello Tom, > > Le 17/12/2017 05:19, Tom a =C3=A9crit : >> I found the link of http://microca.st/fsf in next_step.html is=20 >> unavailable now. It will show a page to sell the domain. It seem=20 >> microca.st not belong to its owner now. >>=20 >> Should this link be removed? >>=20 >> Tom >>=20 > > It seems that pump.io has its own site: > http://pump.io > > But that doesn't help if you simply want to subscribe. Maybe this one > would be more helpful: > https://github.com/pump-io/pump.io/wiki/User-Guide I think the whole guide is directed towards non-wizards. I wonder if it would be a good idea to give a link to a mastodon help page, like https://joinmastodon.org/ . Possibly replacing the twitter suggestion. Not suggesting to replace the pump.io link, although a broken link is really bad in general. Maybe its just a temporary problem?