From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 04 02:27:54 2017 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1cZulG-0008Oz-CB for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 02:27:54 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([208.118.235.13]:46646) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZul9-0008Or-Ri for esd-translators@fsf.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 02:27:52 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_80,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from mail-wm0-f43.google.com ([74.125.82.43]:36005) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1cZul9-0006c1-IH for esd-translators@fsf.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 02:27:47 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f43.google.com with SMTP id c85so62071499wmi.1 for ; Fri, 03 Feb 2017 23:27:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UUh3/TW6Zm5mYLyor9hK+Y92m64xmV51+/8KVfWcKgQ=; b=IJK/uO6L8U6GkO72SmlJusq4DJjbFcHs2DvjB5gkaHX+tMysd3e9OOr3XMoA2Yp96T bTVDuIsD6BvnyWRNAKyEupechNtCG3+sKA6lhfDOC1lqGd5XZn+wApuLPg9JAoGr5NRC opEEKZCB3TkV4ZfElxk40phmQJPLkufky/yQFI7dhlYk9YJQQ4d1jY6tCdu8lNKe+EUQ UnCgV9lqIbAeFXkvfu+6Lg8Y2CMMauPi3QxBgGKFRI/vUfQT9KNkf/FhuMDNyLtf+8kj JXzM9zYz9ZM2hg/COjdKH1czdvwzORtmZqYdSQpcgs/5ewAiiftZLQ1pohVGvY/9poHT dKEw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject :to; bh=UUh3/TW6Zm5mYLyor9hK+Y92m64xmV51+/8KVfWcKgQ=; b=dfbZ875SwXtXoCPP+ncEppznkD/h82I1afFGbY82m/cy7iSm6DLtuCopvJPu+vHu19 AjFDTg/h/guILZudaQTEEySuh54a+SEAlHgMH0dYn2NGk9P6a3Lm0CUOybJYyzHMkBWs V9LNTy735xivpJ8fOBHaB9+3Inpm7TgZgJPQ97OVKtkIsFoGDKig7eJP3tIt0VmTtGx6 rrpiVRl8qf4c6i5UaHb0nMGR+FYsiGmJX7PbmEOjl/oHAD1oa9ilJbS4jG6YxQveZ4Uz ltM1V8hez0k4wXYUEDN6Gh8HIWZgz2KtN0JPmCtzQv9WomOh10OFE4ruEyR9bbzMKxhE dp7A== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39lc4Aj7sS5aZHlvHS+XjoBS3QxMdd2/073AOzg8yss30jxMwHgCt4WEdab4Osz8pDiv59VAIhZrwSIyHg== X-Received: by 10.28.71.220 with SMTP id m89mr870079wmi.120.1486193265565; Fri, 03 Feb 2017 23:27:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tekrei@gmail.com Received: by 10.80.164.252 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Feb 2017 23:27:25 -0800 (PST) From: =?UTF-8?B?VC4gRS4gS2FsYXljxLE=?= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 08:27:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vLS0Oet-idN94sIH0Flx7g3JaaE Message-ID: To: esd-translators@fsf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] Subject: [ESD-translators] [TR] About Turkish translation X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 07:27:52 -0000 Hello all, There are some layout problems with Turkish translation of the guide, yet I checked the latest source code in the repository and it seems fine there. Maybe it is not pushed to the live instance and I don't know how to do it? Cheers, Tahir From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 04 04:21:32 2017 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1cZwXE-000262-DM for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 04:21:32 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([208.118.235.13]:55690) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZwXC-00025v-ET for esd-translators@fsf.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 04:21:31 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_20, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:35395) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1cZwXC-0005Hn-85 for esd-translators@fsf.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 04:21:30 -0500 Received: from ineiev by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cZwXA-0007Y2-W9; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 04:21:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 04:21:28 -0500 From: Ineiev To: =?utf-8?B?VC4gRS4gS2FsYXljxLE=?= Message-ID: <20170204092127.GP18144@gnu.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="o9w4P0ZCTVHZJ0iX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] Cc: esd-translators@fsf.org Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] [TR] About Turkish translation X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 09:21:31 -0000 --o9w4P0ZCTVHZJ0iX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Tahir; On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 08:27:25AM +0100, T. E. Kalayc=C4=B1 wrote: >=20 > There are some layout problems with Turkish translation of the guide, > yet I checked the latest source code in the repository and it seems > fine there. Maybe it is not pushed to the live instance Yes, this is possible. > and I don't know how to do it? 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Best, Tahir 2017-02-04 10:21 GMT+01:00 Ineiev : > Hello, Tahir; > > On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 08:27:25AM +0100, T. E. Kalayc=C4=B1 wrote: >> >> There are some layout problems with Turkish translation of the guide, >> yet I checked the latest source code in the repository and it seems >> fine there. Maybe it is not pushed to the live instance > > Yes, this is possible. > >> and I don't know how to do it? > > It's only FSF people who do this; nudge campaigns@fsf.org. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Feb 14 11:11:57 2017 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1cdfht-00020U-2B for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:11:57 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([208.118.235.13]:41882) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cdfho-0001zm-9P for esd-translators@fsf.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:11:55 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM, SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([69.89.30.42]:40160) by mail.fsf.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1cdfhn-00055N-Ss for esd-translators@fsf.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:11:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 27632 invoked by uid 0); 14 Feb 2017 16:11:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy3.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2017 16:11:24 -0000 Received: from box521.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.121]) by cmgw4 with id kgAH1u0162dl3Ja01gALaV; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:10:23 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Pets2ERd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=AYhxeHUo8NS0r0nTDE4Tig==:117 a=AYhxeHUo8NS0r0nTDE4Tig==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=n2v9WMKugxEA:10 a=AL-GnUu9YyrwNh8ITKIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Ay9uGasUs0gA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=programeshqip.org; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:References:To:Subject:From:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=575ZGMI9kbqa6Rrs5tpOiDZjKa/S0fZW8+1dA3KdN20=; b=DEfbjS49tLyt71FsvMk7di4D+W S7Th+0DCVIpZ01Be3DiKYeumprqL+ub//YeSxKXB/pw8DVHC8S1P0fb8kLxn+TvKUwGhwln9sHRmT V2uPj8g+xcjgrVVEGbX5D/A+C; Received: from athedsl-222283.home.otenet.gr ([85.74.187.233]:33432 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by box521.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cdfgH-0004SU-Bc for esd-translators@fsf.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:10:17 -0700 From: Besnik Bleta To: esd-translators@fsf.org References: <580CC150.4070807@free.fr> <580CCF96.5040803@programeshqip.org> <580CFAD4.3040704@free.fr> Message-ID: <7b66cfec-dd7b-d796-e323-fd6ae22103ab@programeshqip.org> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:10:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:53.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/53.0a2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box521.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - fsf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - programeshqip.org X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 85.74.187.233 X-Exim-ID: 1cdfgH-0004SU-Bc X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: athedsl-222283.home.otenet.gr ([192.168.1.2]) [85.74.187.233]:33432 X-Source-Auth: besnik@programeshqip.org X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: cHJvZ3JhbTI7cHJvZ3JhbTI7Ym94NTIxLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] Albanian sq.po updated to v4 X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:11:55 -0000 Hello, On 12/04/2016 07:20 PM, Besnik Bleta wrote: > > > Hello, > > I have committed it a couple of weeks ago. It’s over two months now since I asked about. I haven't got any answer. Could someone check if the messages reached the list? And hopefully publish the v4 for sq too. Regards, Besnik From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Feb 14 11:15:51 2017 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1cdflf-00025c-Ec for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:15:51 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([208.118.235.13]:42644) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cdflc-00025W-Ka for esd-translators@fsf.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:15:49 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37810) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1cdflc-0005P2-EZ for esd-translators@fsf.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:15:48 -0500 Received: from ineiev by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cdflb-0004ya-8j; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:15:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:15:47 -0500 From: Ineiev To: Besnik Bleta Message-ID: <20170214161546.GD18144@gnu.org> References: <580CC150.4070807@free.fr> <580CCF96.5040803@programeshqip.org> <580CFAD4.3040704@free.fr> <7b66cfec-dd7b-d796-e323-fd6ae22103ab@programeshqip.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aAwQsp3R3A4c5Jjk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7b66cfec-dd7b-d796-e323-fd6ae22103ab@programeshqip.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] Cc: esd-translators@fsf.org Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] Albanian sq.po updated to v4 X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:15:49 -0000 --aAwQsp3R3A4c5Jjk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Besnik! On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 06:10:48PM +0200, Besnik Bleta wrote: > > > On 12/04/2016 07:20 PM, Besnik Bleta wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I have committed it a couple of weeks ago. > > > It=E2=80=99s over two months now since I asked about. I haven't got any a= nswer. > Could someone check if the messages reached the list? I confirm that they do. --aAwQsp3R3A4c5Jjk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEvZ1N7nsv8cvvLuDE4KzT4Mvnh0oFAlijLTIACgkQ4KzT4Mvn h0ovzgf+LC7P2eeRt3V47wFBWjUQo0s1H83N5LrezfVhE6vv6NFDm8hZ/IFXgvcl iv8jblj5gwdzG/879RJKhNzloi08b1MRC8HIJx16SCMm7vw9bJegTWt6U6VtNrF1 2Rdec1c+E9fJP5CgQiYGbTwaXD49pylXf7qjMiTbk5LSR9bxex2tBBf91G0xVGF/ 8rbt19a1A8o0+Iqjjxn7VvV6kda86YGFveR/9L7V5xMbygGEoVm8qU55XXdUc/4G aLrmpjRF6gnDr7UKBhrPUtBkz9TRyTBMvcVaRAnBT9sNwuo7Q92TjS0jWxODmBM8 3nbKr7BfyOw015konDD1hElP4FL2Og== =N2k8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aAwQsp3R3A4c5Jjk-- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Feb 17 09:10:38 2017 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1cejF7-0004vo-R0 for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:10:37 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([208.118.235.13]:58792) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cejF1-0004vi-Og for esd-translators@fsf.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:10:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:48786) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1cejF1-0008BB-Ep for esd-translators@fsf.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:10:31 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10390208F7 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:10:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3vPw0J6BVPz108q for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:10:24 +0100 (CET) To: esd-translators@fsf.org From: Tobias Bengfort X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <491d4cc4-b6ab-40f2-2e36-40e80c46db66@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:10:22 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100329) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] Subject: [ESD-translators] Misleading "invalid keys" section? X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:10:35 -0000 Hi, I have a question that is not directly related to translation, but rather to content. I am sorry if this is the wrong place to raise the iss= ue. I recently stumbled upon a bug report[1] in a thunderbird plugin that quoted the "be wary of invalid keys" section from emailselfdefence. Maybe I am missing something, but I find that section misleading. It seems to mix up encryption and signing: > make a habit of glancing at that bar. The program will warn you there > if you get an email encrypted with a key that can't be trusted. You should not trust the authenticity of an email if it was *signed* with an untrusted key. This is also what is displayed in that bar. On the other hand, *encrypting* a mail with an untrusted key is dangerous, but there is *no bar* indicating this. Instead, there is the "To send encrypted, accept only trusted keys" setting in Enigmail. tobias [1]: https://github.com/protz/thunderbird-conversations/issues/1120 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Feb 17 09:24:37 2017 Received: from list by lists.fsf.org with public_archive (Exim 4.71) id 1cejSe-0005Cv-W7 for mharc-esd-translators@fsf.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:24:36 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([208.118.235.13]:33728) by lists.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cejSc-0005Cp-Qi for esd-translators@fsf.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:24:36 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fsf.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:43086) by mail.fsf.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1cejSc-0000qa-KY for esd-translators@fsf.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:24:34 -0500 Received: from ineiev by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cejSc-0007kG-0k; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:24:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:24:33 -0500 From: Ineiev To: Tobias Bengfort Message-ID: <20170217142433.GO18144@gnu.org> References: <491d4cc4-b6ab-40f2-2e36-40e80c46db66@posteo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <491d4cc4-b6ab-40f2-2e36-40e80c46db66@posteo.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] Cc: esd-translators@fsf.org Subject: Re: [ESD-translators] Misleading "invalid keys" section? X-BeenThere: esd-translators@fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:24:36 -0000 Hello, Tibias! On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 03:10:22PM +0100, Tobias Bengfort wrote: > > > make a habit of glancing at that bar. The program will warn you there > > if you get an email encrypted with a key that can't be trusted. > > You should not trust the authenticity of an email if it was *signed* > with an untrusted key. This is also what is displayed in that bar. > > On the other hand, *encrypting* a mail with an untrusted key is > dangerous, but there is *no bar* indicating this. Instead, there is the > "To send encrypted, accept only trusted keys" setting in Enigmail. You are right, that passage should read "...email signed with a key that can't be trusted". Please report to campaigns@fsf.org (translators have no direct write access to emailselfdefense.fsf.org). Thank you!